ZazuWitts

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  WTS ' Attorney

  by MacHislopp in

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  looking into an article concerning the wts use of u.s.a. postal services:.

  http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:e6gwqzsorhi:www.naa.org/ppolicy/postal/r2000-1-v2.pdf+phillip+brumley+counsel+for+watchtower&hl=en.

  " united states of america postal rate commission.

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  ZazuWitts

  Thanks Mac,

  I have heard of this letter, but never had the opportunity to 'view' what was actually written. Your posting it is much appreciated.
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  What is a Gargoyl?

  by nojw86 in

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  after reading zazu pitts post and that old bossart hotel which was bought by the jw.

  still had the gargolys on its roof top amazed me, since i thougt that gargoyls were domonic stautes.

  can anyone help me withsome input onthis one?

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  ZazuWitts

  The WTBTS had NO choice in the matter. If they wanted the property, they could NOT remove the gargoyles.

  Very recently, my very active JW sis-in-law related that a newly baptized sister had a lovely ornamental Italian design garden, complete with gargoyle statuary (such images are quite the fad at present). When one of the elders came for dinner, and saw them she was told they could be demonized; she promptly destroyed them per his instructions. And, even so, my sis-in-law still can't bring herself to visit this 'sister' and see the garden - there could be some 'lingering' demons around, as she actually stated to me.

  Gargoyles stem from pre-Christian symbols of pagan worship; it is believed by scholars that they were incorporated into relics of the Roman Catholic Church in order to more easily 'convert/placate' pagans.

  The medieval cathedrals of Europe abound with gargoyle ornamentation. The gargoyles are often quite graphic, depicting half/men - half/animals and/or beasts, sometimes urinating or vomiting.
  I should think the WTBTS would especially want to distance themselves from such 'graven images', unless, of course, their desire for property was/is the more primary issue.

  In fact, some of the Bethelites who were moving into the Bossert Hotel, expressed the thoughts that the gargoyles were 'pagan images' and thought they would be removed, not realizing they they couldn't be under "Landmark" historical site regulations.
  (Brooklyn Heights Press, May 18, 1989, p.11).

  I do not think that any active Jehovah's Witness would be viewed as spiritually mature, within his congregation, or by Brooklyn standards, if he even had so much as one gargoyle reproduction in, or on his his home or in his garden.
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  "Patterson" Pictures

  by ZazuWitts in

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  since registering with this forum, i have heard many mention the patterson complex.

  having been 'out' since pre-1975, this facility was news to me.

  came across this link, and thought i would share it with other.

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  ZazuWitts

  TW :)

  Yes, you are correct on the name "Bossert."

  And, the gargoyle ornamentation is still there. The WTBTS is not permitted to remove them because the Bossert is considered 'an historic landmark site'!! Ha,Ha.

  I found some old notes on this from "The Brooklyn Heights Press"; the article appeared May 18, 1989, p.11
  Furthermore, the article revealed that the City of New York was losing over $10 million in taxes, due to the WTBTS religious status exemption - imagine, what they are losing now, with ever increasing property holdings by the Borg?????
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  "Patterson" Pictures

  by ZazuWitts in

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  since registering with this forum, i have heard many mention the patterson complex.

  having been 'out' since pre-1975, this facility was news to me.

  came across this link, and thought i would share it with other.

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  ZazuWitts

  Since registering with this forum, I have heard many mention the Patterson complex.

  Having been 'out' since pre-1975, this facility was news to me. Came across this link, and thought I would share it with other
  posters who also have no idea of what Patterson looks like:

  http://www.mbci.com/ProjShow/watchtower.htm
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  The BRCI Conference

  by larc in

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  are any of you going to the brci conference in waterloo, canada?

  it should be coming up soon, in a matter of weeks.

  they are a really good group of x's.

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  ZazuWitts

  Hi Ros,

  I think larc and I met you at a BRCI meeting in Orlando, some years back. Jim Penton introduced us to you...after the Sunday brunch. Larc explained how we met JAVA.

  JAVA, are your ears burning...have an iced coffee, hehe. :)

  Ros, so true, if you didn't particularly care to listen to a specific speaker, there was the ever so inviting veranda, with rocking chairs, and so many lovely people around for some delightful conversation.
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  2001 District Convention Program

  by Osarsif in

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  teachers of god's word.

  district convention of jehovah's witnesses 2001-2002

  fridayinspired scriptures beneficial for teaching -- 2 timothy 3:16morning9:30 music.

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  ZazuWitts

  Expat,

  I think the diner LDH suggested is called the Sunrise on Main Street - very popular with the locals...great food, excellent service as I recall.
  It was my stepdad's favorite place for breakfast, and he always ordered something called the My Way, an egg, cheese, mushroom, peppers, homefries, mixed together combo....ouch to the arteries, eh?

  Even though the convention is in our city this year, think I will pass it up also. So thanks LMR for your posts, won't have to endure the real thing. :)
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  I'm going to be a father!

  by dedalus in

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  i've been a sorry excuse of a poster lately, so i'm not really in tune with what's going on with the board, but i still know enough people here to make an announcement: foxy, my fiancee, is pregnant!.

  so it happened a couple of years before we were planning it, before we could even get married, before i've finished my postgraduate degree -- but so what?

  we're financially sturdy enough to pull it off, i'll be able to complete the degree and get a good job, and no amount of financial anxiety seems to offset the excitement i feel to be having a child.

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  ZazuWitts

  Esmeralda,

  Hello, hello - I have missed your beautifully crafted posts. :)

  Simon "newbie?" wassup?
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  I'm going to be a father!

  by dedalus in

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  i've been a sorry excuse of a poster lately, so i'm not really in tune with what's going on with the board, but i still know enough people here to make an announcement: foxy, my fiancee, is pregnant!.

  so it happened a couple of years before we were planning it, before we could even get married, before i've finished my postgraduate degree -- but so what?

  we're financially sturdy enough to pull it off, i'll be able to complete the degree and get a good job, and no amount of financial anxiety seems to offset the excitement i feel to be having a child.

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  ZazuWitts

  CoNGraTuLAtIONs "Dad"alus and Foxy. Hey, have you thought about getting married before you tell your father???
  Just a thought, but it might?? curtail any action on his part.
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  Story for Local Newspaper

  by Larry in

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  a local staen island newspaper asked me to write about my experience in the borg.

  here it is - what are your comments?

  my life in the jehovah's witness organization.

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  ZazuWitts

  Hello Larry, and Welcome.

  Thanks for posting your experience(s) with the JW's. Am looking forward to your next installment...hope it will be soon.

  Seeker, makes a good point - do make certain of all facts/dates - if you err, expect active JW's to 'pounce' on such in an effort to discredit your entire account!
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  If Witnesses Had To Be Honest in F.S.

  by NikL in

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  witness: hi.

  witness: right.

  witness: oh yes.

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  NikL,

  Quite the read - thanks for posting it.
  I will count this among my all-time favorites. Zeeesh, bitter/sweet - ironic, can almost picture it happening, haha.