Zechariah
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Complexity, er..no, Simplicity demands a Designer
by SixofNine inlife's complexity defies demand for a designer
by tom siegfried / the dallas morning news
life is complicated, and explaining it is more complicated still or so it would seem.
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Zechariah
Bang..........
You are not processing this data correctly in that our becoming Jehovahs Witnesses came first. The large number of early computer users are now Ex-JWs as the object lessons provided them from their experience with early computers forces them to understand the true complexity of life. .................. It also made people question old opinions and ideas which was both a blessing and a malediction depending on your point of view. It no doubt has given each of us an enormous object lesson that we are far more than physical beings. We are physically embodied spirit creatures. The spirit is the most real thing about us. Ou bodies is the hardware and all things invisible is the software (thoughts, events, emotions, etc.) telling the hardware what to do and when to do it. It stimulated our desire for new experiences and increased our openminded about new ideas. This in turn has lead to our early departure from WT captivity. It sounds like it would have done you well to also have had this experience. Maybe you wouldn't have stayed captive as long as you may have. Maybe your thinking would not be so chaotic and confused as your name implies (Bang as in Big Bang) . ............. This entire discussion has set the stage for for a decade of personal meditations on life. I am beginning now to share. IBM Corp. for whom I worked for 25 years has a motto. THINK has been its longtime slogan. Early experience with computers has stimulated and encouraged free thinking. What do you THINK about that. ............ =============== Zechariah =========
Edited by - zechariah on 6 August 2002 7:37:37
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Complexity, er..no, Simplicity demands a Designer
by SixofNine inlife's complexity defies demand for a designer
by tom siegfried / the dallas morning news
life is complicated, and explaining it is more complicated still or so it would seem.
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Zechariah
Thanks Dizzy Cat ...................
The website you suggested is indeed wonderful including the Discussion board. I will be spending a lot of time there. I am retired now and re-experiencing the C64 with my grandchildren is a greatly enjoyable pasttime for me. =========== Zechariah ========= -
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Complexity, er..no, Simplicity demands a Designer
by SixofNine inlife's complexity defies demand for a designer
by tom siegfried / the dallas morning news
life is complicated, and explaining it is more complicated still or so it would seem.
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Zechariah
Defender....... I really enjoyed your post as I agree 100% with it. I have experienced all the early generation computers including Timex Sinclair; Radio Shack; and of course as you mentioned the Commodore 64. To this day nothing compares to it for game playing. I recently obtained from Ebay auctions Commodore systems for all my grandchildren. I won bids averaging approximately $20 per system including disk drive and sometimes printers. I had stupidly given away my old system and got a another from Ebay. I am deperately searching for a program called "Little Computer People". Do you happen to have it in your attic. I am paying top dollar for it............ Computers more simple than watches indeed.... sheesh.... ========= Zechariah ========
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Complexity, er..no, Simplicity demands a Designer
by SixofNine inlife's complexity defies demand for a designer
by tom siegfried / the dallas morning news
life is complicated, and explaining it is more complicated still or so it would seem.
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Zechariah
I find it beyond comprehension for anyone to buy into the notion that the complexity of a computer and its programming is simpler than that of a watch. Their ridiculous argument is because it allows for variations (evolution) that it is somehow more simple. Anybody who has ever written a computer program no matter how simple knows it requires far more complexity to allow for controlled variation. Here is a simple program as support. Input A; Input B; C = A + B.... The variation would include if A= 2 let B = 4; or if B = 3 let C = 7 ............... Certainly the more controlled variation that exists require more programming complexity and is greater evidence of a intelligent designer. .................. I was inspired with what I consider to be the Ultimate Philosophy of Life. Man as a kind is God's Little Computer People. I understand that our invention of the computer at this significant time in history is no accident. A sign of the time in which we live is a increase of knowledge. This increase is only due to Christs presence in spirit inspiring and providing it as promised Grand Blessings. The computer is the closest thing to Gods own creation of Man. Its inventors were inspired to create these modern technological advances (including the internet) to provide a object lesson to man that he himself is "wonderfully MADE".................. At this unique time in history it is prophecied that all men would know that God (Yahweh) whose name means "He that causes to be" is the Most High (the creator) over all the earth. He through the Christ designed, manufactured, programmed, tested and perfected his Little Computer People just as we have created our inventions. ...................... I plan to shortly delve into my philosophy in greater detail. I could not help but to respond to the ridiculous concept in your post. Its a interesting mental exercise I admit but without merit. ===============Zechariah ===========
Edited by - zechariah on 6 August 2002 2:47:39
Edited by - zechariah on 6 August 2002 3:14:28
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Disfellowhipping "beyond what is written&q...
by belbab indisfellowshipping, beyond what is written.
part one.
there has been much discussion on this board about the wts august insert in the kingdom ministry entitled: display christian loyalty when a relative is disfellowshipped.
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Zechariah
I am certain that if JWs had the Civil authority like the Jews of old as a independent nation they would readily put people to death for almost any offense at all. The Mosaic Laws were their justification. ======================= The practice of disfellowshiping began with the Jews when under Roman rule they could no longer independently sentence people to death. =============== The following personal story supports this: ================= My bro-in-law was away serving prison time for an offense for which he was disfellowshiped. In his absence the elders and the congregation in general abused in many ways
the entire family. I moved to live with the family and tried as the only adult male in the family to intercede in congregation matters so the family would not be taken advantage of in the absence of my bro-in-law an ex elder. In my personal Bible reading I found many many ways the JW elders in our congregation were imitating the bad example of the older men of Israel in the neglect of those in their care. There was an occasion my young neices were being insensitively handled and harrassed on minor matters of conduct. I in anger told the congregation overseer (a truly wicked man) that like the wicked men of Israel spoke of in Malachi chapter 3 they were oppressing the widows and the orphans in the way they were treating my bro-in-law's wife (my sister) and his children. ................. The CO replied that my bro-in-law wasnt dead so how could this scripture apply. I responded "Yes he is and you killed him when you disfellowshiped him. You put him to spiritual death." The CO harshly warned me about my disrespectful tone and the seriousness of my accustion. This was a beginning of my awakening to the cruel insensitive nature of WTS elders and the grossness of their practice of disfellowsipping. ................................ A while later when my bro-in-law was due to be released from prison the wicked CO with another elder made a shepherding call on my mother with whom I was living. I sat in on the meeting to protect my Mom from harrassment. I quickly discovered the purpose of the call was to tell my mother and myself we were obligated and expected to distance ourselves from my sister and her family now that my bro-in-law was coming home. -------------------- I boldly told them that they might feel free to cast stones at someone to put them to death. I mentioned the account in the Bible of the people who were asking Jesus whether a known prostitute should be put to death. Like them I was not without sin as Jesus suggested and therefor was unwilling to participate in the stoning. The whole session went in this fashion as I would not hold my tongue. My legs were black and blue after the brothers left from my mother kicking me under the table every time I opened my mouth. ................................. These are real pleasant memories for me now all leading up to my eventual liberation from Watchtower bondage. ....................... ......... This experience all supports your case that disfellowshiping is indeed beyond what is written.
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==== GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH =================Edited by - zechariah on 6 August 2002 1:26:20
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Personality test -just for fun!
by Ice Blue intake this test for yourself.
don't peek but begin the test as you scroll down and answer.
answers are for who you are now ... not who you were in the past.
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Zechariah
I scored 46 on the test. It was very accurate and interesting. .............. You are all invited to take my Do-It-Yourself Color personality test. ............. http://www.geocities.com/mafitts/archive/colortest2.html .............. Zechariah ..........
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The Good News Has Been Globally Preached
by Zechariah inonce in a while i read the daily textbook where i regularly find many contradictions of teachings with the bible.
note the example of the text for sat.
8/3 taken from acts 12:24 which says the word of jehovah went on growing and spreading.
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Zechariah
Once in a while I read the Daily Textbook where I regularly find many contradictions of teachings with the Bible. Note the example of the text for Sat. 8/3 taken from Acts 12:24 which says the word of Jehovah went on growing and spreading. ...................... Please note the concluding statement of the WTSs comment which they notably left without explanation. ...................... I quote : "Within 30 years after the outpouring of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, Paul wrote that the good news has been preached " has been preached in all creation that is under heaven. This quote is from Col. 1:23. ................. Am I imagining things or does not this commnt raise deep questions nd contradictions about many JW teachings? .................Zechariah................
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Do you love people more now that you're out?
by writerpen ini was thinking about this the other day.
since i've left the borg, i find myself loving other humans more.
like all the little children being abducted, the miners trapped in the mine last week, the victims of car accidents that i pass on the road, a woman crying in the car next to me while waiting for the green light, the homeless that i see every weekend at a local soup kitchen where i volunteer, etc.
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Zechariah
Most definitely. As a JW I have been conditioned to have little regard for people of the world and its governments. No matter how philanthropic and humanitarian a worldly person may be they regard their accomplishments as of no value to God.
Men like JFK, Ghandi, MartinL. King, and Nelson Mandela are regarded as having accomplished nothing as compared against the most inactive minister of Jehovah.They soon become extremely pessimistic and mistrustful of any worldly man acting out of love.
I greatly upset my still loyal JW family by proudly wearing on my jacket a American flag button given me at Mc Donalds. My mother told me "You've really left Jehovah now."
I vote now. I voted in the last presidential election although my man didn't win
I have enormous optimism for the world and its governments.
For many years now I have been sponsoring a Afican child which make me more charitable than anytime in the WTS.
The unity of love for all humankind is what the Bible prophecies for our day.
Zechariah
THIS IS THE DAWNING OF THE AGE OF AQUARIUS
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Daughter'sText Message from District Convention
by jack2 inmy daughter went with a friend to the district convention today (i did not attend).
here is the text message that she sent from her cell phone:.
" so bored.......dying slowly".
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Zechariah
My last Convention attendance was also very memorable. It was I believe 1995 when they release the WTS BOOK OF THE LAW better known as the "What God Really Requires Of Us" broschure. I revealed to my loyal JW mpther sitting beside me the vision I just had of most every one in the audience having yamulkes on the heads. Surely these were modern day Jews following the Laws Of Moses. I fully rationalized at that point the fact that no amount of works can save a man. Only the free gift of God of grace by means of faith. Ever since my motto has been "Give me libery or give me death." If I have to live forever beside self righteous, hypocritically people like JWs who have to be eternal slaves to an idolatrous manmade organization then I welcome the endless sleep of death. My expectation of life based on faith is the only risk worth taking. It is the only acceptable hope for me to have......... Zechariah..... GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH..