to all, in my search for the truth i have found it.
necessary to carefully examine things from a non christian perspective.
i have visited many jewish websites and have become quite disillusioned by what i've read.
quite disillusioned
tell me 'bout it!
I enjoy a little controversy
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Dont go here if you dont like atheism or bible sceptics!.Sometimes i wish i hadn't read some of this stuff myself...but then again!
i would like to open this discussion on israel, because i have come to learn many things about it.
the bible scriptures continue to prophecy about the nation of israel.
we all know that the natural nation has been disowned by jehovah, because unfaithfulness.
OTS i question your criteria of proof, its as simple as that!.Your 3 VERY generalistic lines of evidence are simply not enough to prove to me that Dubs are the "Truth".You'll have to do better!.I mean people handle snakes down in the South of US...does that prove a thing? NO!.To go around claiming it does is just wrong...and thats how i see your evidence...its not enough!.Your Criteria is too narrow and designed to point to the conclusion it appears you want to reach!
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I understand these stats Solid!
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i would like to open this discussion on israel, because i have come to learn many things about it.
the bible scriptures continue to prophecy about the nation of israel.
we all know that the natural nation has been disowned by jehovah, because unfaithfulness.
No, i cant for the life of me see them as Israel.They're just another Christian sect who think they're gods chosen and "The Truth"...thats all they are to me OTS.
If this is your proof that they are something special...i'd say its not very much to go on?
1) Called by God’s personal name. (Exodus 6:3; Psalms 83:18)
2) Monotheistic- one God concept “non-Trinitarian” (Duet. 6:4)
3) Iconoclastic- does not use ungodly images in worship such as the cross. (Exodus 20:4-6)
Solid/BQ...whatz up mate?, whats with all this agro towards friend?.The WT is a crock, thats all you need to know...dont worry Friends views, if he likes going KH and thinks its the best thing since sliced bread then good for him.But truth is he doesn't think that way!...Hey, over at Witnet, he's an apostate...just ask BOBCARL.
The WT is a lying, arrogant, hypocritical pus ridden pimple on the Backside of Christianity.Who cares what the WT faithful say about things...i can see through crap, Hell, anyone with half a brain cell to their name can see through the nonsense they pedal...
judge blasts church over sex offences .
by michele tydd .
a wollongong judge yesterday launched a scathing attack on the jehovah's.
I still can't figure out why new blood cards with wording to reflect the new changes haven't been issued, as well as detailed meetings in the halls explaining of the change to inform the members.
Path, thats easy...they know they have to change but they dont want to suffer the consequences of that change.They want to change but at the same time keep the members in the dark in relation to that change.Its like the "this generation", they changed that...but if you read the change in the WT, its not very clear.Actually I have a friend still being taught the OLD light concerning the generation thing and i was told this is not uncommon at all...The society has been very wishy washy about informing people.What about those Hemophiliacs in the 70's...the society made some changes concering some product but from memory didn't inform the members properly till 3 years later...its a joke, totally dishonest.
i would like to open this discussion on israel, because i have come to learn many things about it.
the bible scriptures continue to prophecy about the nation of israel.
we all know that the natural nation has been disowned by jehovah, because unfaithfulness.
Yeah OTS, and just how is the book of revelation talking about JW's then?
judge blasts church over sex offences .
by michele tydd .
a wollongong judge yesterday launched a scathing attack on the jehovah's.
Frankly, it is easy to see how the Society initially adopted the view it did regarding blood transfusion
A Fear of the new, a fear of the world, a sense of paranoia about everything...that Satan is everywhere.And an obessessive desire to prove to themselves and others that they are unique and Gods chosen by being overly scrupulous in regard to scripture, like the Pharisee's...Like those snake handlers in the south!.Religious people are just plain crazy sometimes.
Nevertheless, by now the Society should have corrected what has become realized as a seriously flawed teaching, one that probably represents the most tangible threat to its existence.
They're in a bit of a catch 22 arn't they friend?.How do they revoke the blood policy and exlain their back down to all those who have lost loved ones?.How do they revoke the blood policy and not loose members, people will loose faith in them when/if they do it for sure.Then again, how do they hold onto the policy with the Blood reform movement getting bigger and bigger, and more and more people seeing it for what it is...A crock.
The blood policy is probably the one thing the wider community moreorless understands about JW teaching...its turns them off JW's right away.Want to refute JW's to a layman...just tell him about the blood policy, its a sure winner 99.9% of the time.
Edited by - Zep on 8 August 2000 22:15:58
i would like to open this discussion on israel, because i have come to learn many things about it.
the bible scriptures continue to prophecy about the nation of israel.
we all know that the natural nation has been disowned by jehovah, because unfaithfulness.
All that stuff about Jehovah estabishing his throne with David to time indefinite and all the rest it, you know that stuff Solid...From memory there was one statement in the bible that alluded to the fact that Israel would never be destroyed or dominated by another nation after the 70yr prophecy of Jeremiah...it never happened, they were always under the dominion of other nations after then...and they did get destroyed in 70CE...though they're back now!
judge blasts church over sex offences .
by michele tydd .
a wollongong judge yesterday launched a scathing attack on the jehovah's.
Theres some dodgy doctors/psychiatrists out there...and social workers too.What about that case in the US...was it the called the "dirty dozen" or "little rascal" case?...anway a whole town went up on child abuse charges because some social workers wouldn't take the kids word for it that they weren't abused."no" really meant "yes"...theres been a few cases like this.Then you have something called False memory syndrome, which does happen...vunerable women go to some doctor who tries to elicit thoughts from them that they were sexually abuse when young.One case i remember was on a show called "the times" down here..it had to do with 2 sisters who were Jehovah witnesses and who went to the same doctor and then both started having memories of being abused by this particular witness who was a family friend. So they confronted him and he just called them crazy...then they went to the Elders and they just said "where are your 2 witnesses"....pretty insensitive like!!!.The story didn't mention anything about False memories but I was a little suss to the fact that they were attending the same doctor and then suddenly both start having memories of being abused?.Who knows?
Edited by - Zep on 8 August 2000 3:46:12
