Posts by zev

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poll? is the u.n./wtbts issue your last straw?

by zev in

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is it your last straw?.

its my last straw.

reading that letter from the u.n. has sealed it for me.

zev

Is it your last straw?

yes

or

no

its my last straw. reading that letter from the u.n. has sealed it for me. what about you?

thanks for your opinion.

-Zev
-August 8th, 2001 - The day the lambs ROARED

589

MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...

by hawkaw in

as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.

and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .

after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk

zev

is it to much to ask to have what proof you have emailed to me hawkaw?
[email protected]
thanks.

and thanks for pursuing this when others could not.
my many heart felt thanks.

-Zev
-August 8th, 2001 - The day the lambs ROARED

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MAJOR MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS - PART 2 - BREAKING HARD

by hawkaw in

flash - major breaking!!!!!!!.

i just talked to paul hoeffel 1:35pm - he phoned me.. okay people.

i can now confirm that the watchtower has provided a letter in writing to dpi indicating that the wts has "disassociated" themselves from dpi - ie the wts has made it offical that they have quit.. i can also confirm that the wts has been updating dpi regularily as they are suppose to over the last 10 years.. i can also can say that something is in the works that i can disclose by hopeflly tomorrow.

zev

thanks for your efforts!

-Zev
-August 8th, 2001 - The day the lambs ROARED

31

Hey There ! All You Disfellowshipped Ones!

by Englishman in

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is your anger with the jw religion due mainly to the fact that you have been df'd?

is it possible that persons who post here who are not disfellowshipped can feel as angry as those who are being shunned and who are therefore being effectively gagged?.

is the df'ing policy of the wtbts the main reason that ex-jw's seem to go all out to get other witnesses out of the org?

zev

englishman quieried:

Is your anger with the JW religion due mainly to the fact that you have been DF'd?

no...not yet.

Is it possible that persons who post here who are not disfellowshipped can feel as angry as those who are being shunned and who are therefore being effectively gagged?

absolutely mate!

Is the DF'ing policy of the WTBTS the main reason that ex-JW's seem to go all out to get other witnesses out of the org?

i cannot as of yet speak for myself on that.

Would you try to get someone to leave if you had the opportunity?

yes

If you had been allowed to quietly cease associating without penalty, how would you then feel then about the JW faith?

i'd feel like i could make my own decisions about what i believe and act freely based on that.

Just wondering exactly what it is that makes so many of us so mad at the WTBTS.

my anger comes from the fact that i have found in my research that the wtbts has been deliberately misleading by not reporting to all its followers the complete truth of what it has been doing and my resaerch of such issues as mexico, pedophiles, and now, the scandelous u.n. issue.

thanks for the ???'s

-Zev
-August 8th, 2001 - The day the lambs ROARED

38

I called Brooklyn

by mommy in

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well the other thread has gotten long concerning the association of te wtbts and the un so i started this one here.

i just got off the phone with a man in patterson concerning this issue and i will post most of convo here.. first of all if you do call beware they play kingdom melodies when you are on hold!.

ok a man answers the phone giving me his first name.

zev

hello mommy!

i miss you!

i just want to give a perspective from a die hard dub point of view.

i gave my wife the printed pages from the u.n. web site.
she refused to read them. when i explained them...she equated it to being the same as an 18 year old male registering for the selective service. maybe they had to also. {at the time, i didnt know about the membership from 1991}

whatever the reasons for this membership...an active dub will and has to defend the actions of their god, the wtbts, which as they see it is....gods right hand. because after all, the wtbts is gods spirit directed organization.

-Zev
-August 8th, 2001 - The day the lambs ROARED

37

ANNUAL MEETING ... Silverdome

by biblexaminer in

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i want to barf.

i was wondering when the hell samuel herd was going to shut up.. blab blab blab.... aren't we wonderful, oh we are so wonderful.. about the only thing that was said that i could see as being something which the gb would see as touchy enough to warant the multiple announcements for " no tape recorders, no video recorders and no computer note taking" would be the statement by herd that there's "going to be a lot off killing, billions will die ....in swift fashion".

and the other gb (fill in the name) who talked about being in the new world "in two hundred years".... wow.. that's leaving enough prophetic lee-way for the gb heirs to the thrones.. much emphasis was placed on the "...two roads to the new system ...the high road and the low road".

zev

yup..i'm waiting to hear what you observed too nytelecom1

-Zev
-August 8th, 2001 - The day the lambs ROARED

37

ANNUAL MEETING ... Silverdome

by biblexaminer in

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i want to barf.

i was wondering when the hell samuel herd was going to shut up.. blab blab blab.... aren't we wonderful, oh we are so wonderful.. about the only thing that was said that i could see as being something which the gb would see as touchy enough to warant the multiple announcements for " no tape recorders, no video recorders and no computer note taking" would be the statement by herd that there's "going to be a lot off killing, billions will die ....in swift fashion".

and the other gb (fill in the name) who talked about being in the new world "in two hundred years".... wow.. that's leaving enough prophetic lee-way for the gb heirs to the thrones.. much emphasis was placed on the "...two roads to the new system ...the high road and the low road".

zev

well well....from one coast to the other heh?

so nothing revealing came from this much touted meeting huh?

ok...i thought maybe we were to see the end this month.

did they really say 200 more years till the end?

-Zev
-August 8th, 2001 - The day the lambs ROARED

37

ANNUAL MEETING ... Silverdome

by biblexaminer in

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friends

i want to barf.

i was wondering when the hell samuel herd was going to shut up.. blab blab blab.... aren't we wonderful, oh we are so wonderful.. about the only thing that was said that i could see as being something which the gb would see as touchy enough to warant the multiple announcements for " no tape recorders, no video recorders and no computer note taking" would be the statement by herd that there's "going to be a lot off killing, billions will die ....in swift fashion".

and the other gb (fill in the name) who talked about being in the new world "in two hundred years".... wow.. that's leaving enough prophetic lee-way for the gb heirs to the thrones.. much emphasis was placed on the "...two roads to the new system ...the high road and the low road".