Posts by InjusticeSystem

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Rumor about the Imitate Jesus Convention

by FusionTheism in

i saw a rumor a few weeks ago on reddit that the new imitate jesus convention is supposed to present new light and clarified understandings on the disfellowshipping/disassociation practices.. supposedly, if this rumor has any truth to it, there will be a talk given at the convention about how we should not be strict like the pharisees in how we shun people, loosening up some of the jw rules about this practice.. has anyone here heard anything about this or have more info on it?.

InjusticeSystem

That would be unprecedented, but I'm highly skeptical.

I agree with xwhyzee above, I think this would cause a huge shift in awareness if suddenly JW's were able to associate on some level with their family or friends that are DF or DA without fear of punishment. This seems unlikely because it would expose current JW's to different (and most likely negative) thinking towards the Borg, and may even cause them to question why they were unable to associate before, but suddenly (on an apparent whim) they can.

Bad for the Borg, great for a lot of us here.

Therefore, unlikely.

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God on Trial:The Verdict

by Brokeback Watchtower in

the trial:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yveo8-ntcc.

the whole video:.

InjusticeSystem

Wow.

I will definitely be watching the full film.

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Questions about the Flood for Brother Jeramy

by cappytan in

how long did the flood last?how long can land vegetation survive submerged in seawater?how long can freshwater fish survive in saltwater?how old is human civilization?

what is the oldest settlement in south america?

how did those people get there from the middle east after the flood wiped out everything on the earth?.

InjusticeSystem

Please read The Rocks Don't Lie by David R. Montgomery.

Mr. Montgomery is a Geologist. The first part of the book is a walk through of the Grand Canyon explaining all the layers, how they were lay down, and when.

There is NO evidence, and absolutely no possibility that a global flood ever inundated the Earth in the manner described in the bible. There is not enough water for one, and the Vapor Canopy has been vaporized by logic and evidence in other threads.

Crack a book not written by a cult every now and again. It's quite refreshing.

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Paradise is going to suck!

by WasOnceBlind in

once you really start thinking about it, the whole paradise idea is kind of depressing.

i remember growing up as kids my sister was the first to tell my parents (admittedly very courageously) that she wasn't sure she wanted to live in paradise, it sounded boring living forever.

i thought she was dumb for thinking that, i mean playing with lions!!!!

InjusticeSystem

TD - Thank you for your insightful reply, I appreciate the information very much. This has been one of my longest standing questions/thought experiments, and one of the first to cause me to question the promises made in the Bible and by JW's. I can only hope that some of my JW family members will find this information..."digestible."

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

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Paradise is going to suck!

by WasOnceBlind in

once you really start thinking about it, the whole paradise idea is kind of depressing.

i remember growing up as kids my sister was the first to tell my parents (admittedly very courageously) that she wasn't sure she wanted to live in paradise, it sounded boring living forever.

i thought she was dumb for thinking that, i mean playing with lions!!!!

InjusticeSystem

TD - You're my hero. Yes, it was only humor, I realize that this is not even a remote possibility. Thank you for explaining it in the correct way. That was awesome.

SCIENCE!

P.S. This has been a subject of some debate in my house lately, namely the suddenly vegan diet of carnivorous paradise animals. You seem to have an excellent grasp on the problems inherent in this conversion. Do you happen to know of other similar roadblocks (I know there are plenty but just a few examples would be very helpful for my JW family should the subject arise again) in other species that make this scenario impossible given their current needs? Any suggestions are appreciated.

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Paradise is going to suck!

by WasOnceBlind in

once you really start thinking about it, the whole paradise idea is kind of depressing.

i remember growing up as kids my sister was the first to tell my parents (admittedly very courageously) that she wasn't sure she wanted to live in paradise, it sounded boring living forever.

i thought she was dumb for thinking that, i mean playing with lions!!!!

InjusticeSystem

Yes, a tiger is going to eat grass.

Hmm, let's think on this.....If a tiger no longer needed to hunt and chase prey, it would no longer need it's razor sharp claws, muscular and agile body, or amazing senses. Over the generations, such qualities would no longer be useful or necessary, and would therefore not be worth the energetic expenditure to grow and develop. Every physical attribute an animal posses costs the animal in energy to maintain.

Assuming that principle remains true in paradise, what qualities would be useful in that scenario? Well, the teeth would need to become flatter to adjust to the vegan diet. The body would no longer need the immense muscle and physical agility, but rather a good slow grazing body plan that maximizes the available digestive capabilities. All those honed senses? Too expensive. A much simpler set of basic senses (enough to see the grass in front of your face) would suffice.

Essentially, if the natural world still functioned in a somewhat similar manner, paradise would turn all majestic tigers into big stupid cow-like creatures in relatively few generations. Evolution's a bitch.

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August 2015 WT - Let's Review the BS Children

by InjusticeSystem in

found these gems in this edition:.

- keep in expectation!- prepare now for life in the new worldthe passing of time should not cause us to lose hope thatkingdom blessings will be realized.

there are solid reasonsto keep our scriptural expectations alive.

InjusticeSystem

Sloppyjoe2 - Sorry, that quote was just my mother in law talking. Although, I think you'll find that attitude prevalent among almost all witnesses, other than when there is a mistake (assuming they'll actually admit there have been mistakes, which is rare). Then all the sudden it's, " Well, the GB are only men of course, they will make mistakes."

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August 2015 WT - Let's Review the BS Children

by InjusticeSystem in

found these gems in this edition:.

- keep in expectation!- prepare now for life in the new worldthe passing of time should not cause us to lose hope thatkingdom blessings will be realized.

there are solid reasonsto keep our scriptural expectations alive.

InjusticeSystem

Oubliette - Yeah, when she said that I just wanted to scream, "Do you not see how that is fucking crazy?!!"

How will she and every other overzealous J-dub react to these articles?

"Oh, what's this? More bullshit?"

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August 2015 WT - Let's Review the BS Children

by InjusticeSystem in

found these gems in this edition:.

- keep in expectation!- prepare now for life in the new worldthe passing of time should not cause us to lose hope thatkingdom blessings will be realized.

there are solid reasonsto keep our scriptural expectations alive.

InjusticeSystem

It's such a core doctrine though, it's difficult to see the reward for the risk of shaking the faith of the older JW's who have had 1914 and 607 carved into their minds for so long. Then again, my mother in law once told me (verbatim):

"If the Organization one day told us not to wear the color blue anymore, we just wouldn't wear it anymore. We wouldn't ask why or question, because when the Organization speaks, it's Jehovah speaking to us."

God I wish I was making that up. We'll see where the insanity takes them. Perhaps they'll just lose the 607 and keep 1914 as a somewhat ambiguous date when Jesus invisibly came to power, sort of like:

"....Because why again? What led us to that conclusion?"

"....Uh.....Um........(shit)......Look out! Armageddon's right behind you!"

(Changes subject)

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August 2015 WT - Let's Review the BS Children

by InjusticeSystem in

found these gems in this edition:.

- keep in expectation!- prepare now for life in the new worldthe passing of time should not cause us to lose hope thatkingdom blessings will be realized.

there are solid reasonsto keep our scriptural expectations alive.

InjusticeSystem

Sorry forgot link:

August 2015 WT Online

Cheers everybody