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  HEY, NO LIGHT SABER??

  by Leolaia in

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  poor leolaia became a jedi and no one noticed.. when do i get my light saber?

  or do i have to turn to the dark side to get force lightning instead?

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  Congratat Leolaia. Every post of yours (apart from a few hundred Burma Shave adverts) has been fascinating!

  Hehehe, yeah, but they were fun!
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  HEY, NO LIGHT SABER??

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  poor leolaia became a jedi and no one noticed.. when do i get my light saber?

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  Yup, that was indeed from George Lucas' car. I got to go to Skywalker Ranch because I know Dennie Thorpe who does sound foley for all the Star Wars films, as well as for Jurassic Park and Saving Private Ryan, and a ton of other films (check IMDB). Her ex-husband Marc Thorpe, who I know quite well, is the guy who invented Robot Wars and Battlebots. I also know Will Wright, creator of the Sims through him, and I also know Gerri Lawlor (from attending improv shows), who does the voices from the Sims....so I'm a MAJOR geek ....

  My favorite Python movie is Brian, for quite obvious reasons....
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  HEY, NO LIGHT SABER??

  by Leolaia in

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  poor leolaia became a jedi and no one noticed.. when do i get my light saber?

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  Okay....here is the real reason for this thread.....I wanted to show off this picture of mine....

  Those are REAL light sabers, the actual ones from the movies. The upper left hand one is Darth Maul's light saber. The one next to it on the right, I think, is Qui Gon Ginn's. You can see an Imperial Walker to my right hand side. This picture is from my visit to Skywalker Ranch. Cool, huh?

  I have another similar picture of me with all the famous props from the Indiana Jones films (the hat, the whip, the Staff of Ra medalion, the holy stones from the Temple of Doom, the Holy Grail, etc.)
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  HEY, NO LIGHT SABER??

  by Leolaia in

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  poor leolaia became a jedi and no one noticed.. when do i get my light saber?

  or do i have to turn to the dark side to get force lightning instead?

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  scully, blondie, bikerchic.....a fine group of sabers I must say. But I just can't resist xjw's Lord Maul saber....

  Now who do I get for my padawan?
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  The Personal Testimony of Mrs. Joan Cetnar

  by Deputy Dog in

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  the red lion faith chapel invites you to hear

  the personal testimony of mrs. joan cetnar

  joan cetnar is a former jehovah?s witness saved by the grace of god.

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  The Cetners produced a broshure that was the first "apostate literature" I read, long before I left the Society. Thanks guys! :)
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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-11-04 WT Study (1st one on FDS)

  by blondie in

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  comments you will not hear at the 4-11-04 (week of 4/5-11/2004) wt study (march 1, 2004 wt)

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  Thus throughout the centuries there have been professed Christians who rejected the error of the trinity, usually called "Arians." There were those who closely followed primitive Christianity and who were known as quartodecimans because of celebrating Christ?s memorial on Nisan 14, holding out against the paganizing trend of Rome. Then there were the Paulicans from the seventh century onward, whose teachings have been termed "genuine apostolic Bible-Christianity." They stood solely by the "New Testament," practiced adult baptism, , believed that God in his love had sent an angel to earth who at his baptism became God?s Son. They rejected unscriptural tradition, had no clergy-laity distinction, refused to revere the cross.

  But did the Paulicans also believe in the Trinity or were they Arians? Did they believe in hell? Did they believe in the immortality of the soul? Same thing with the Quartodecimans. You get to be part of the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" class if you have one so-called true doctrine that makes you a heretic in your day, though you might also hold on to other equally "false doctrines"?

  I would like to see some research on what the Paulicans believed or the Quartodecimans. If there has been a continuous existence of the F&DS as the WT says there has been, why is there an apparent discontinuity in the actual beliefs held by these groups? The WT is just lumping disparite groups together to make it always seem there has been one group of people always in existence, tho it has never been independently shown they have anything to do with each other. Sounds a lot like begging the question to me...
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  HEY, NO LIGHT SABER??

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  Thanks....and I loooove the new avatar picture. :)))

  I was kinda tho hoping someone was gonna welcome me as a Jedi ... i was actually looking forward to it...kinda like waiting for the guy you like to ask you out and he never does....
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  HEY, NO LIGHT SABER??

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  poor leolaia became a jedi and no one noticed.. when do i get my light saber?

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  Poor Leolaia became a jedi and no one noticed.

  When do I get my light saber? Or do I have to turn to the DARK SIDE to get force lightning instead?
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  The Ugly Truth about Jesus 2nd Presence

  by Amazing1914 in

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  as jws we learned the utmost central watchtower doctrine that jesus returned "invisibly" in 1914 (well it was 1874, but then j. f. rutherford decided jesus really, really, really returned at a later date ... this is also known to jws as "jesus second presence" (greek: parousia = english: presence):.

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  related new thread at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/70098/1.ashx .

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  My own gut instinct, having read usenet for many years, is that scholar perhaps really is who he says he is (that is, a person who completed a degree in religious studies at the institution he named), but that he is trolling us with flamebait and having a good chuckle seeing us spend our time answering his silly posts. He knows academics don't write the way he does, and perhaps he finds the odd combination (degreed academic in religious studies + WT views + a very unacademic writing style) amusing.
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  The Bible (2 scriptures in particular) and Literary Criticism

  by CeriseRose in

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  okay i'm taking my first university level course (english lit) since leaving school almost 20 years ago.

  i have had no exposure to the bible other than my own reading of revelation which scared the bejeebus out of me, and learning through the wts (obviously a skewed angle).

  when i started this course, i was still going to meetings and a "jw.

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  However, in chapter 2, verse 22, we find that Eve is created after and out of Adam, a distinctly different version that has long been a primary source for our culture's anti-feminism. Eve's role in the Fall, the subsequent multiplication of her sorrow in childbirth, and God's commandment that her husband "shall rule over" her (chapter 3, verse 16) have been seen to justify the view that women are the cause of human misery and that their position is subordinate to men's."

  I understand the story in a slightly different way. I believe it functions in part as an etiological legend explaining female subordination among other things, but it also describes this subordination as an abberation of creation, a situation that God did not originally intend. Genesis 2:28 says that Eve was created to be Adam's ezer kenegdo "supporter corresponding to him", which carries no inherent sense of inferiority. Indeed, the opposite is the case. Ezer, in meaning "helper, supporter", can just as easily mean "one who protects, aids"; thus Yahweh is spoken of in the OT as Israel's ezer. In the context of Eve's creation, Adam is an incomplete individual, deficient, one who lacks without his counterpart. That is how Eve functions as Adam's ezer. Kenegdo is also defined in Gesenius' lexicon as meaning "corresponding to, with parity", that is, as an equal partner. So I see the story as actually quite feminist in a way, that women were intended to be man's equal, and it is through sin and human imperfection that the original arrangement changed to the present one. We see the change occurring in all sorts of subtle ways. Before sin, Eve was "bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh" to Adam; he saw no difference between himself and her (2:23). But then after sin, Eve suddenly becomes "that woman" (3:12). And is Eve really being duped by the serpent? Read her version of God's commandment in 3:2-3 and compare it with the original in 2:16-17. She has tinkered with the wording a lot!