Dude. Why are you flirting with the forum owner's wife?
CZAR
to the household of god that is israel... and all those who go with them... may you have peace!.
i have been coming here for some time (although not in recent months, my sincere apologies) to share with you various truths that i have received from the truth.
for some of you, there has been little or no doubt as to the "authority" by which i share such things, the true source of such understandings: i have not refrained from confessing to you time and again that they are not mine, but are what has been given me by my lord, jaheshua mischajah, son and christ of the most holy one of israel, the god of abraham, isaac and jacob, whose name is jah or armies.
Dude. Why are you flirting with the forum owner's wife?
CZAR
to the household of god that is israel... and all those who go with them... may you have peace!.
i have been coming here for some time (although not in recent months, my sincere apologies) to share with you various truths that i have received from the truth.
for some of you, there has been little or no doubt as to the "authority" by which i share such things, the true source of such understandings: i have not refrained from confessing to you time and again that they are not mine, but are what has been given me by my lord, jaheshua mischajah, son and christ of the most holy one of israel, the god of abraham, isaac and jacob, whose name is jah or armies.
I do remember the concept of the philosopher king, New Sense. I'm not sure about the "not of this world" part, but I do recall that the guy at the top was to be a philosopher with absolute power. Can you give us a reference about the "other worldliness" of the king, shelby?
So, shelby, it's good to see you again. Attracting the usual tormenting gnats, eh? I have long wondered about Greco - Judaic interchanges of ideas. Some of those Hercules stories and some of the Samson stories seem to have a lot of parallels. I mean, they lived next to each other in an age of Phonecian commerce.
So, God sent you to tell us this? Did he mention anything else? Or is this just one of his inscrutable ways?
(Note to all: Shelby may very well be off her rocker, but she at least posts a message of peace and hope. Please treat her with respect. You can challenge her arguments, sure, and you probably will just go around and around on the matter - but she has always been nice. Please return the favor.)
CZAR
so my wife is standing at the door, waiting for me to finish my morning ablutions so that we can go out, and she asks me to go to the door.
i met a very friendly couple who wanted to talk to me about jehovah.
i informed them that i was raised as a jehovah's witness and that i had been disfellowshipped for about (and i had to think about this) five years now.. and the dude was offended by my existence.
c-jw said,
If I were to get the chance I would play coy and ask why only JW's teach that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607bce and not 587bce. That there is overwhelming physical evidence, 10,000 plus tablets stating so
If they come back, I will tell them things like that. But I don't think so, and I was more interested in NOT losing my cool. It was tough to remember everything when they were looking at me. It was like being back in my jc...
CZAR
so my wife is standing at the door, waiting for me to finish my morning ablutions so that we can go out, and she asks me to go to the door.
i met a very friendly couple who wanted to talk to me about jehovah.
i informed them that i was raised as a jehovah's witness and that i had been disfellowshipped for about (and i had to think about this) five years now.. and the dude was offended by my existence.
midget - you have gumption to use the word gumption. Let the power of gumption compel you!
CZAR
so my wife is standing at the door, waiting for me to finish my morning ablutions so that we can go out, and she asks me to go to the door.
i met a very friendly couple who wanted to talk to me about jehovah.
i informed them that i was raised as a jehovah's witness and that i had been disfellowshipped for about (and i had to think about this) five years now.. and the dude was offended by my existence.
Feels good not to have to genuflex after the ablutions, eh CZAR?
Indeed, I did not need that elder's benediction, I have my OWN savoir-faire. (genuflect, perhaps?)
Okay, now I'm just showing off, but I don't know why I'm so verbose.
AAAHAHHHHHHHHHH!!! I can't stop!
CZAR
a few years ago my brother in law a chef, was looking into opening a gay bar /restraurant.
non jw .. my dad a total wt zombie was helping him out looking for a place, speaking with landlords, atty's etc.
this went on for about 2 years.
Why be a dick about it ? The guy already lost his cash.
CZAR
us criticises religious .
discrimination in belgium
source: expatica (belgium) http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=48&story_id=11964&name=us+criticises+religious+freedom+in+belgium.
However I'm not sure if you realize what kind of government support officially recognized religions get in some (terribly socialist-democratic by US standards) European countries. In Poland for instance "priests" in of officially recognized religions have their medical insurance and 80% of their pensions paid by the government for their entire lives. Considerable tax exemption (property, cars, etc.) is another great benefit they enjoy
My jaw just hit the floor. Yes, there is a complete and total confusion between our cultures on this thread right now. No, the USA doesn't support religion or pay priests' pensions or anything like that. Hell, it doesn't even pay MY pension - SS taint nuthin.
We are in the middle of a HUGE debate over whether giving government money to religiously based charities is unconstitutional or not. And the "pro-religion" side is probably going to lose.
churches are always completely tax-exempt, except for certain circumstances. Private donations to any religion are tax deductible (although some forms need filled out.) Okay, then I can see why you would want to control who you are paying and what for... yikes... my apologies if I offended you in any way.
Wow. Your PRIESTS are STATE FUNDED? (I mean, not their salaries, but... wow)
I have to go sit down somewhere and drink about this. I mean, think about this... no, I like it the first way better.
A religion that runs no charities, creates maladapted members, and denies military service is no big deal in OUR country, being more or less a Masonic Government of the Light Bringer... I would probably not be too happy in a country like yours, if I hadn't grown up there. BUT - if the social contract is that well-defined and "intrusive" for lack of a better word, then yes, the government has a duty to represent the interests of the taxpaying public.
I guess this just proves my point about socialism - it starts with health insurance and winds up controlling your freedom to choose how to live. And it's RIGHT to do so, is the thing. I'd rather skip the whole process, thank you very much.
CZAR
do you think it is wrong to ask someone out who you happen to know already has a girl/boyfriend?
even if you are unsure if it is a "serious" significant other (and have never met them)?
and if the person you are interested in seems interested in you?.
I already have.
In the end, who cares? I'm married to my wife for reasons other than mere passion.
CZAR
do you think it is wrong to ask someone out who you happen to know already has a girl/boyfriend?
even if you are unsure if it is a "serious" significant other (and have never met them)?
and if the person you are interested in seems interested in you?.
Do what thou wilt.
What are you, some kind of Christian? Don't be all "love thy neighbor" it's just claptrap. We can agree on THAT much at any rate, huh? Take what you want, if she wishes to give it, and any that stand between you are just... boring...
CZAR
so my wife is standing at the door, waiting for me to finish my morning ablutions so that we can go out, and she asks me to go to the door.
i met a very friendly couple who wanted to talk to me about jehovah.
i informed them that i was raised as a jehovah's witness and that i had been disfellowshipped for about (and i had to think about this) five years now.. and the dude was offended by my existence.
A brief coda that might be of interest to yinz - the czarina was surprised at the way I handled it - firmly but politely. I'm not even that nice to customers at the bucks.
She asked me, "I handed it to you because I thought you would be funny and mean to them about it."
But I couldn't have been. It would have been like being mean to myself six years ago.
She then said, "I'm sorry. If I'd known, I would have let them have it, after what they did to my husband."
She knows what I went through. Not many do. It was bad. Really bad. No wonder I am so messed up still about it. I mean, I was frightened of them - frightened! Me! I've been hit. I've hit back. I don't know what I was frightened of or why.
But it was fear - and I conquered it. And YOU CAN TOO! All you lurkers, when the worst is over, you will have won against them! Don't let the fear overwhelm you!
Thank you all for your congratulations. I wonder if they will be back. I'll be ready to break their beliefs across my knee if they do.
CZAR