Posts by czarofmischief

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THE LIBERATORS OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

by dostprefer in

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how regretful it must be to strive to free others from a perceived religious slavery and then gradually to realise our 'liberty' and ?reasonableness?

amounts to an enslavement to our own selfishness?

and to discover that we look the same and are just as worthless as anyone else?s little tin gods.

czarofmischief

"My little tin gods" are my family and my country. They far more adequately fill my need for community and contribution than any cult of yours which seeks to supplant both.

Ooh, and the rock not cut out by hands will become a mighty mountain and fill the earth... sure, but it ain't you and it ain't the Watchtower. Your religion owes nothing to God's handiwork, and has the cut marks of Russell, Rutherford, and Franz (an "axis of stupid" if you will) all OVER it. Learn about it, and you will see how these three men carved their initials in the hearts of millions, making those enslaved millions dance to their tune while building their memorial tombs.

CZAR

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The British NHS........ What is your view?

by ScoobySnax in

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the nhs is a hot issue at present with the forthcoming uk elections pending in may, both main parties are trying to monopolise the issue of our health service.

it is a unique service where faults of course can be found (as in the current news story) but having worked and given my best for the last 15 years in it, i feel proud of it.

what experience do you/have you had of the nhs?

czarofmischief

ps: Just wanted to say that any problems are generally NOT the fault of the health care workers themselves. Having been a NA for a year, I can say that the nurses and the aides and the doctors are overworked and being treated like disposable resources instead of the professionals they are. Like I said, the current idiocy plaguing American business.

CZAR

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The British NHS........ What is your view?

by ScoobySnax in

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the nhs is a hot issue at present with the forthcoming uk elections pending in may, both main parties are trying to monopolise the issue of our health service.

it is a unique service where faults of course can be found (as in the current news story) but having worked and given my best for the last 15 years in it, i feel proud of it.

what experience do you/have you had of the nhs?

czarofmischief

I've been doing some thinking, and research. The American system is without a doubt the best in terms of quality and speed of service - but the price is out of the range of many. The increase in corporate run health systems over the traditional community hospitals has both pluses and minuses as well. Suddenly there is this whole administration clique with high paying jobs and eager to "prove" themselves by cutting staffing, etc. It's just part of the current idiocy plaguing American business. Since our health care is a business, it has all the shortcomings and advantages of businesses in general.

Your health care is a government program, which has problems of its own, which scooby described. Maybe there is a third way, a middle ground that could cover everyone and yet allow for the free-market enterprise and initiative to come up with treatments.

Which makes me curious about the proposed reforms in Britain. What kind of ideas are they tossing around?

The RNC better have a plan along those lines, 'cause this is the last term before Hillary... and her plan is a revolution. And she will get elected, I'm almost positive about it.

CZAR

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If Watchtower rules were applied to worldly people..

by JH in

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if watchtower rules were applied to worldly people, you could shun worldly people for silly reasons such as...buying a 2 door car .

give other examples: .

czarofmischief

No skirts with provocative slits.

And Paris and Nicky would not be allowed to hang out together because they are bad association for each other.

CZAR

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The New Light that burned me

by czarofmischief in

i was reading the 1975 thread, and considered posting on it, but since i wasn't born until the carter administration, i don't think i really can comment on it.

i can sympathize, however.. you see, i was raised in the truth.

rarely missed a meeting.

czarofmischief

AK - I remember the same lack of interest in the doctrine in the service groups too. It was as if they were trying to just keep going. They had the conclusion already posted in their heads (we must be loyal) and then wiggled the facts around until they got to where they needed to be.

I remember one guy, nice guy, saying, "I was disappointed in 1975, and I am still around." This was by way of being encouragement. Hm.

I bitterly said, "I think I am going to become an apostate." Well, look at me now.... ha!

I was never as innocent about the truth again. In fact, that year was when I started doing theater... and that hastened my eruption from the borg!

But looking back on it, I think most of the older ones already knew that the "end" wasn't coming, and were remaining JW's for reasons that had more to do with socializing, etc. Good if you were in the "in" crowd. But what I can't get, is if you KNOW it's all a lie, why would they ever disfellowship ANYONE over such stupid shite like I got into? I suppose it's the desert island mentality. Either you build a cohesive community out the rubble of the fallen civilization, or you go Lord of the Flies on each other. I think I wandered from my home congregation into one that was falling apart and got caught in the cross fire! Bastids.

CZAR of the "give piggy back his glasses" klass

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The New Light that burned me

by czarofmischief in

i was reading the 1975 thread, and considered posting on it, but since i wasn't born until the carter administration, i don't think i really can comment on it.

i can sympathize, however.. you see, i was raised in the truth.

rarely missed a meeting.

czarofmischief

THEY made ME feel like I was the weak one for being so shocked

I KNOW! That was the worst part. Oh, I lack the faith to accept their direction... meanwhile I'm skipping the prom, not having any friends, wearing a bloody polyester firetrap of a suit four days a week, and being made to feel that college is the end of my spiritual life. How's THAT for faith?

AND:

Be damned, dostprefer! I just looked up your other posts and a got a good idea of what you are all about. Just going to troll around with us, for a while, huh? Slumming it a bit, eh? Little do you know you stand in the presence of your betters, your elders, and people far more spiritually advanced than any amount of that mollycoddling, patronizing, warty old whore you call "Mother Organzation".

"YO MOMMA DID IT WITH THE U.N.!!!" For a fancy gift and a string of pearls, and a chance to feel like all the other old religions on the block. Which makes you the spiritual SON of a whore! She did it with an organization she said she despised... and claimed that God despised... all for a library card, she says, or for something a little richer - the promise of success in the NWO??? Who knows.

CZAR

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The New Light that burned me

by czarofmischief in

i was reading the 1975 thread, and considered posting on it, but since i wasn't born until the carter administration, i don't think i really can comment on it.

i can sympathize, however.. you see, i was raised in the truth.

rarely missed a meeting.

czarofmischief

Here's to seeing through all their BS and lies!
*clink*

I'll drink to that!

CZAR

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The New Light that burned me

by czarofmischief in

i was reading the 1975 thread, and considered posting on it, but since i wasn't born until the carter administration, i don't think i really can comment on it.

i can sympathize, however.. you see, i was raised in the truth.

rarely missed a meeting.

czarofmischief

Not the best option. . It's hard for us to be truthful about ourselves, but it is possible and isn't it less painful to be worm free?

Not sure I get your point, there, buddy. But since the historical basis for that story is probably related to the fate of Sulla the Roman general, I'm not too worried about the worms.

Your point being?

CZAR

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Has anyone ever had an experience with ghosts or spirits?

by cindykp in

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most of us were taught that this was the works of satin.

im not sure i believe that.

i had never had any experiences before i moved in there.

czarofmischief

When we first moved in to this apartment, something walked through the place - or so it seemed. Things fell down in rapid succession in a straight line - my guitar fell off the chair, then the baby gate fell over, then a picture fell off the wall and then some dishes in the kitchen crashed - and that was by the back door. I was scared poo-less, I kid you not. The dog was not happy about it either - it was growling and howling at empty places in the room.

I've also been nearly asleep (this is subjective, of course) and seen a woman standing by the bed. When I saw her, she seemed surprised that I could see her, and then she disappeared. She was in grey robes that seemed to wave in the breeze, although of course I live inside an apartment and there are few breezes in here (although more than I would like, drafty old place)...

I don't think this place is evilly haunted, but something is here.

CZAR

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Ozzie, Advice please........

by Country_Woman in

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ozzie, after been away for more then 12,5 years, i refound some old bottles of wine.

since i am no expert on wine (i only know what i like to drink) i wonder: should i put these bottles where i find them?

drink them?

czarofmischief

BTW: the d'Oc wine is from the south of France. EXCELLENT place to buy wine...

ahhh... languedoc, birthplace of the inquisition and some damn wonderful wine.

CZAR