Human ignorance is not an accepted sin which the ancients had to endure to explain the world in which they lived, which is how the mythological story of Adam and Eve came about.
Mr.Finkelstein
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Was Sin Inevitable?
by Parker ini was wondering about this question and wanted to ask: was sin inevitable?
also, i had thought about past watchtower articles or publications related to this topic and did some research and found this from our readers ask if adam was perfect, how was it possible for him to sin?.
well, then, did god create adam with a moral weakness, so that he lacked the ability to make sound decisions or to withstand temptation?
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Mr.Finkelstein
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IICSA and NO apologies regarding child abuse
by Fadeaway1962 inhttps://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/jehovahs-witness-child-abuse-sex-18717755 .
no collective regret or any acknowledgement that child sexual abuse had happened among jws..
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Mr.Finkelstein
The situation with the JWS religion and others is the very reason why there should be a universal law that states that all known incidences of child sexaul abuse by these institutions should be brought forward to the proper law authorities for investigation.
A severe penalty should also be imposed to these organizations if they were found to deliberately cover up the incident.
The WTS/JWS say well we looked after these situations through the bible's directions , that makes them appropriately righteous and guilt free to themselves.
Many of these perpetrators got off scot free because of the misappropriate handling by the WTS/JWS leaders.
Many of these unfortunate incidents were influenced by the preconceived awareness of how the JWS would handle the situation and that creates a crime of exploitation.
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Don't forget to take Sauerkraut for COVID-19 ?
by was a new boy infermented foods may lower your risk of covid-19 death.
countries that consume higher amounts of traditionally fermented foods have lower covid-19 mortality rates.
according to german researchers, significant changes in the microbiome caused by modern life and low fermented food consumption may have increased the spread or severity of the disease.
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Mr.Finkelstein
I'll eat it anyways just for the taste and enjoyment.
Don't forget the spicy mustard
ummmm
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The women that abandon “The Good News” are a large army
by Aimee.Padilla into be born a woman is a great disadvantage in many parts of the world and much more if she is part of a destructive sect like the jehovah’s witnesses where she is submitted to the “theocratic order” being the base that sustains the corporate pyramid, displaying submission at all times before male authority.
those of us that have been part of this cult can verify that the woman has to carry out a series of practices that for the rest of society is somewhat incomprehensible.
i’d like to draw your attention to the act of head covering, if for any reason a woman has to pray in public while a male is present, who is not available to lead the prayer, she must cover her head because she wouldn’t be respecting the arrangement of authority if she didn’t.
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Mr.Finkelstein
Men today in general like the ancient Hebrew social arrangement of what existed by that ancient civilization because it establishes their own power and control over woman, same is true today in many religions.
Ooohh that power is good ain't though.
In many ancient civilizations woman were mostly bought and paid for chattel, for example in Israel/Judea a man could buy a unwed woman who he raped from the woman's father, she didn't have a thing to say about it.
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IICSA and NO apologies regarding child abuse
by Fadeaway1962 inhttps://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/jehovahs-witness-child-abuse-sex-18717755 .
no collective regret or any acknowledgement that child sexual abuse had happened among jws..
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Mr.Finkelstein
No collective regret or any acknowledgement that child sexual abuse had happened among JWs.
Of course not that would be too empathic and humble, the reason why the JWS dont openly regret their intentional cover up of child sexaul abuse that occurred within their organization is because that would bring reproach onto Jehovah's name and his earthly chosen organization/arrangement.
This has been the heart of the problem with JWS and their activity with this serious social problem.
The organization's public image was more important and valued than the protection of children.
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New Disfellowshipping Procedure
by Anna Marina indisfellowship but never, ever announce it.. this new procedure is to be confirmed - anyone else come across it?.
for this record these are jesus' actual instructions in relation to this matter:-.
(matthew 18:15-17) 15 “moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone.
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Mr.Finkelstein
Disfellowshipping will never go away in the JW cult because its a holding perception of power that men are attracted to, as in having the power of god's holy spirit.
Come to think of it that the reason the men of the WTS started and self propagated themselves as the FDSL/Anointed , it was really about the power.
The false doctrines they created (1914) facilitated that endeavor, that was their will and purpose.
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Was Sin Inevitable?
by Parker ini was wondering about this question and wanted to ask: was sin inevitable?
also, i had thought about past watchtower articles or publications related to this topic and did some research and found this from our readers ask if adam was perfect, how was it possible for him to sin?.
well, then, did god create adam with a moral weakness, so that he lacked the ability to make sound decisions or to withstand temptation?
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Mr.Finkelstein
Ancient mythological stories were inevitable based upon humanity's inherent ignorance of the world the ancients lived in their time and era. ie. Adam and Eve
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No, They Will Never Notice!
by Atlantis insince the watchtower has already made this bible public, i can put a link out here.. no, the rank & file will never notice the words "governing body" have been inserted into acts 15: 1-35 in the 2019 new world translation, matthew to acts.. click the image to make it larger if need be.. https://postimg.cc/sqvdl10w petra!
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Mr.Finkelstein
Here is a list of what many bible translations say concerning that scripture ....
New International Version
Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers.
New Living Translation
Then the apostles and elders together with the whole church in Jerusalem chose delegates, and they sent them to Antioch of Syria with Paul and Barnabas to report on this decision. The men chosen were two of the church leaders—Judas (also called Barsabbas) and Silas.
English Standard Version
Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brothers,
Berean Study Bible
Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to select men from among them to send to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas called Barsabbas and Silas, two leaders among the brothers,
Berean Literal Bible
Then it seemed good to the apostles and to the elders, with the whole church, having chosen out from them, to send men to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas: Judas called Barsabbas and Silas, leading men among the brothers,
New American Standard Bible
Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them to send to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas-- Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren,
New King James Version
Then it pleased the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas, namely, Judas who was also named Barsabas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren.
King James Bible
Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
Christian Standard Bible
Then the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, decided to select men who were among them and to send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas: Judas, called Barsabbas, and Silas, both leading men among the brothers.
Contemporary English Version
The apostles, the leaders, and all the church members decided to send some men to Antioch along with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Silas and Judas Barsabbas, who were two leaders of the Lord's followers.
Good News Translation
Then the apostles and the elders, together with the whole church, decided to choose some men from the group and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose two men who were highly respected by the believers, Judas, called Barsabbas, and Silas,
Holman Christian Standard Bible
Then the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, decided to select men who were among them and to send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas: Judas, called Barsabbas, and Silas, both leading men among the brothers.
International Standard Version
Then the apostles, the elders, and the whole church decided to choose some of their men to send with Paul and Barnabas to Antioch. These were Judas, who was called Barsabbas, and Silas, who were leaders among the brothers.
NET Bible
Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to send men chosen from among them, Judas called Barsabbas and Silas, leaders among the brothers, to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas.
New Heart English Bible
Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men out of their company, and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas: Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, chief men among the brothers.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Then the Apostles and the Elders, with the whole church, chose men from among them and they sent Yehuda, who is called Bar-Shaba, and Shila, to Antiakia with Paulus and BarNaba, men who were Leaders among the brethren.”
GOD'S WORD® Translation
Then the apostles, the spiritual leaders, and the whole church decided to choose some of their men to send with Paul and Barnabas to the city of Antioch. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, who were leaders among the believers.
New American Standard 1977
Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them to send to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas—Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren,
King James 2000 Bible
Then it pleased the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabbas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
American King James Version
Then pleased it the apostles and elders with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas and Silas, chief men among the brothers:
American Standard Version
Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men out of their company, and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely , Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
Douay-Rheims Bible
Then it pleased the apostles and ancients, with the whole church, to choose men of their own company, and to send to Antioch, with Paul and Barnabas, namely, Judas, who was surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren.
Darby Bible Translation
Then it seemed good to the apostles and to the elders, with the whole assembly, to send chosen men from among them with Paul and Barnabas to Antioch, Judas called Barsabas and Silas, leading men among the brethren,
English Revised Version
Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men out of their company, and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
Webster's Bible Translation
Then it pleased the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch, with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
Weymouth New Testament
Thereupon it was decided by the Apostles and Elders, with the approval of the whole Church, to choose suitable persons from among themselves and send them to Antioch, with Paul and Barnabas. Judas, called Bar-sabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren, were selected,
World English Bible
Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole assembly, to choose men out of their company, and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas: Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, chief men among the brothers.
Young's Literal Translation
Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole assembly, chosen men out of themselves to send to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas -- Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren -
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When did WT lose the spirit?
by Smiles inat what time would you say that the watch tower schema lost the spirit?.
like the ancient nation of israel which struggled maintaining divine blessing due to a long series of grave errors that eventually culminated in definitive loss... how and when did watch tower lose the spirit?.
can we pinpoint a time or event?.
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Mr.Finkelstein
The WTS has had the spirit of stupidity since it started in the late 1800's
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Culture Wars
by Victor inwith things going to hell in a hand basket, i’ve taken an interest in the clashes of mindsets.
this of course takes me back to my own evolutionary mindset pre and post jw life of two decades.
if you overlay the core beliefs of memetic tribes as postulated by the authors, i’m curious what the median tribe of jwd would be?
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Mr.Finkelstein
When you have an acting president who leans to the far white in closeted racism and positions himself in support mostly to the top 1% of the economic sector of a population, one should expect cultural division and instability to occur.