Or maybe he meant "millions now living will never die" in God's eyes. There really is a lot of ways to rationalize that if one wants.
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Millions Now Living Will Defiantly Die.
by weasel inmy mother passed away in february.
she was a pioneer for 40 years and steadfast in her jw beliefs to the day she died.
i flew to kentucky to find her cold and dead in her bed.
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New Sex-Scandal Coming Up In Norway!
by Kent ina new sex-scandal is coming up in norway .
this case is not reported to the police, and as far as i know the local congregation in a small town in telemark, norway - is trying to find out what to do with it.. .
this time it's not an elder abusing children.
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Hey Kent,
nice to see you back! Stick around.
Observador.
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THE POWER OF A FRIEND
by observador ini got this from a friend of mine, and thought i'd share it with you.
warning: may not be a real life story.
a friend is something we should never throw out the window!
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observador
This is an interesting story, which a lot of people would relate to, regardless of it being a real life one.
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Jehovah does NOT Communicate with the Watchtower Society!
by UnDisfellowshipped inthe watchtower, august 1, 2002 issue, pages 14 and 22:
the watchtower, june 15, 1957 issue, page 370: .
the watchtower, june 1, 1955 issue, page 333: .
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observador
Oh, wait, here's how a JW will explain this:
"Of course Jehovah is not communitcating with anyone [individual person] today. Only with the organization."
Others will say: "Well, but the statement is very clear. Jehovah does not communicate directly with any humans. He does it by means of the holy spirit."
And life goes on. Go figure.
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THE POWER OF A FRIEND
by observador ini got this from a friend of mine, and thought i'd share it with you.
warning: may not be a real life story.
a friend is something we should never throw out the window!
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observador
Hello everyone.
I got this from a friend of mine, and thought I'd share it with you. WARNING: MAY NOT BE A REAL LIFE STORY.
A friend is something we should never throw out the window!
Observador.
THE POWER OF A FRIEND
One day, when I was a freshman in high school, I saw a kid from my class
walking home from school. His name was Kyle. It looked like he was
carrying all of his books. I thought to myself, "Why would anyone bring
home all his books on a Friday? He must really be a nerd."
I had quite a weekend planned (parties and a football game with my
friends tomorrow afternoon), so I shrugged my shoulders and went on.
As I was walking, I saw a bunch of kids running toward him. They ran at him,
knocking all his books out of his arms and tripping him so he landed in
the dirt. His glasses went flying, and I saw them land in the grass about
ten feet from him. He looked up and I saw this terrible sadness in his eyes.
My heart went out to him. So, I jogged over to him and as he crawled
around looking for his glasses, I saw a tear in his eye. As I handed him
his glasses, I said, "Those guys are jerks. They really should get lives."
He looked at me and said, "Hey, thanks!" There was a big smile on his
face. It was one of those smiles that shows real gratitude.
I helped him pick up his books, and asked him where he lived. As it
turned out, he lived near me, so I asked him why I had never seen him
before. He said he had gone to private school before.
I would have never hung out with a private school kid before. We talked
all the way home, and I carried some of his books. He turned out to be a
pretty cool kid. I asked him if he wanted to play a little football with
my friends. He said yes. We hung out all weekend and the more I got to know
Kyle, the more I liked him, and my friends thought the same of him.
Monday morning came, and there was Kyle with the huge stack of books
again. I stopped him and said, "Boy, you are gonna really build some
serious muscles with this pile of books everyday!" He just laughed and
handed me half the books.
Over the next four years, Kyle and I became best friends. When we were
seniors, we began to think about college. Kyle decided on Georgetown,
and I was going to Duke. I knew that we would always be friends, that the
miles would never be a problem. He was going to be a doctor, and I was
going for business on a football scholarship.
Kyle was valedictorian of our class. I teased him all the time about
being a nerd. He had to prepare a speech for graduation. I was so glad it
wasn't me having to get up there and speak.
Graduation day, I saw Kyle. He looked great. He was one of those guys
that really found himself during high school. He filled out and actually
looked good in glasses. He had more dates than I had and all the girls loved
him. Boy, sometimes I was jealous.
Today was one of those days. I could see that he was nervous about his
speech. So, I smacked him on the back and said, "Hey, big guy, you'll be
great!" He looked at me with one of those looks (the really grateful one)
and smiled. "Thanks," he said.
As he started his speech, he cleared his throat, and began. "Graduation
is a time to thank those who helped you make it through those tough years.
Your parents, your teachers, your siblings, maybe a coach...but mostly
your friends. I am here to tell all of you that being a friend to someone
is the best gift you can give them. I am going to tell you a story."
I just looked at my friend with disbelief as he told the story of the
first day we met. He had planned to kill himself over the weekend. He
talked of how he had cleaned out his locker so his Mom wouldn't have to
do it later and was carrying his stuff home. He looked hard at me and gave
me a little smile.
"Thankfully, I was saved. My friend saved me from doing the unspeakable."
I heard the gasp go through the crowd as this handsome, popular boy told
us all about his weakest moment. I saw his Mom and dad looking at me and
smiling that same grateful smile.
Not until that moment did I realize the impact of my little gesture.
Never underestimate the power of your actions. With one small gesture you
can change a person's life; for better or for worse. God puts us all in each
other's lives to impact one another in some way.
Look for the good in others.
"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble
remembering how to fly."
It's National Friendship Week. Show your friends how much you care.
Send this to everyone you consider a FRIEND. If it comes back to you,
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URGENT UPDATE !!! ON E-WATCHMAN
by SWALKER in.
e-watchman has just sent a letter to the governing body accusing them of apostacy and demanding a full investigation by an outside committee!
go to www.e-watchman.com and click on commentary for april!
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URGENT UPDATE !!! ON E-WATCHMAN
This e-Watchman is as nuts as those he's trying to fix. Thanks for the good laugh, though.
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Brooklyn is off the hook in the Amarillo TX case
by Nathan Natas inhttp://www.amarillonet.com/stories/040404/new_abusecase.shtml
web-posted sunday, april 4, 2004 .
abuse case going to trial .
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observador
It boggles my mind that we can't get people to see that there is ZERO difference between "two national JW groups" and "the local congregations". The latter is merely an appendage of the former.
I had the same thought.
What would happen if the congregation is eventually found guilty and the amount ordered by the judge for compesation, if any, is beyond the cong's finances? Just wondering...
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This year's new releases!!!
by Nosferatu inokay people, time to guess what new releases they're going to have at the 2004 district convention.
(btw, anyone know the "theme" of the convention for this year yet?).
i'll bet any money we'll get another shitty brochure.
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LynEyes,
Because everyone knows the answers do not work and might just get a JW kid's ass kicked even worse.
... and faster.
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New BOE Letter Arrives
by Farkel inthis is a typed copy of a new boe letter i recently received from one of my sources: .
dear brothers, .
you will soon make several changes to our current literature arrangement.
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Nice try, but I think these 2 points betray you:
we are under God's law to render to the superior authorities or "Caesar"
No need to explain to the "elders" what "superior authorities" are.
This will be a blessing Brothers, for it will allow thousands of Brothers...
If I know the "Society" well, they don't give this type of explanation. They simply say and the "elders" do it.
Anyways, .
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The good in Jehovah's Witnesses.
by ScoobySnax ini don't think i've made any apology for my leanings here towards jws, whilst i don't imagine most here will agree with me, i just think its good sometimes to redress the balance on this forum in a small way to let people who might be reading/lurking/ know that.. despite feeling messed up a bit in my own head about which direction i want/have to take in my own life, and despite many struggles as deep and traumatic as many have experienced here, i still hold jws as a group in the highest esteem.
i can remember what it was like to try and do the "right" thing and follow the way of the truth, it was bloody hard, and i fell down many times.
i always used to try and pick myself up dust myself down and start over again, sometimes with success for longer periods than others.
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Hi Jamara. Welcome to the board.
Please allow me to comment on something you said.
All I know is that my mother really believes what she believes and she raised me and my siblings the way she thought was best. was it? who knows. I know this though she is good. regardless. She gave of her time and effort to make sure that we had a stable foundation and even though I am scarred because of the looks and c riticism from other about choices I made and even though I am confused about what is right and wrong spiritually I know she did what she thought was best and for that I can say she is good. So there is some good in JW's.
Jamara, when we leave the whole JW way of life, it is common to be confused about things. I just want to point out 2 things that you may have got confused:
1) the fact that your mother raised you and your siblings strictly according to JW standards does not necessarily prove that she IS good. She was simply doing zealously what she was taught was the best way of life to you. For that matter, the definition of "good" may be quite different for a lot of people.
2) and more important: even if your mother IS good, that doesn't mean that the JW religion is good. Remember, the whole discussion, as I gather, is about whether or not the religion is good. In other words, there are a lot of people like your mother, educating their children the best way they can, and they never even opened their Bible.
It is nice to hear different opinions anyway. Have peace.