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  RUSSIA: Sacked for being Jehovah's Witnesses

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  this article was published by f18news on: 4 may 2004russia: sacked for being jehovah's witnesses

  by geraldine fagan, moscow correspondent, forum 18 news service

  sergei popov and aleksandr takhteyev, two of three jehovah's witnesses sacked on 1 april by a private firm on the russian pacific island of sakhalin, claimed to forum 18 news service that there was a direct link between the decision to sack them and the ban on the jehovah's witnesses in the russian capital imposed by a moscow court several days earlier.

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  Earnest,

  I think that, with this kind of article, cleverly written, the WT ends up getting what they expect from the JWs without really telling them outright. The article has quite a few "double talk", examples of which I show below.

  We cannot ignore Caesar?s law or the seriousness of an oath, but Jehovah?s law is supreme.

  This is the "time to keep quiet." But when there is an attempt to conceal major sins, this may be the "time to speak."

  My opinion is that by using expressions such as "we cannot ignore Ceasar's law", the WT puts a mantle of reasonableness and balance on them, which is what pleases a lot of people.

  In the end, JWs get the message and will do as WT suggests, reporting someone for doing what they perceive as a violation of 'Jehovah's supreme law'.

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  Kingdom Ministry....."What will you do with your free time?"

  by integ in

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  1) with summer just ahead, what plans have you made to increase your share in praising jehovah?

  family heads who are entrusted with their families spiritual welfare, will do well to encourage their mates, and children to make the most of any extra time they may have away from the workplace.

  by increasing their share in the ministry.

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  Integ,

  is this for real? What month? After a few years away from the org, I have a hard time distinguishing what might be a joke from something for real.

  I like this piece:

  My worldly relatives were impressed, when while they were having a barbacue, which I avoided due to my Christian conscience, I retired to my sleeping quarters to study the Watchtower lesson.

  Ohh, sure. The relatives were really impressed on how unpolite and socially unskilled this man was. Yes, they were!

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  2004/2005 "Walk With God" District Convention Program

  by johnny_was_good in

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  2. bible

  friday.

  9:30 music.

  42 and prayer.

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  Thanks.

  The program is the same as last year's with minor changes.

  But I like this one here: "11:50 Walking With Jehovah by Appointment".

  Walk-in customers welcome, too; they'll be served by Jesus.

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  **DATELINE NBC***

  by zev in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on may 7th 2004 at 8:00 pm (est) dateline will air a 2 hour special on cults, and be featuring some survivors, as well as steven hassan, and bob and judy pardon.

  set you vcr's, as this indepth cultbuster show will undoubtedly be very interesting.

  this is not a jw specific show, but will include jw's, as i am told..

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  Thank you, Zev.

  Running to set the VCR up...
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  UN-Official JW site

  by Corvin in

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  http://members.cox.net/keyofc/jw_page_001.htm

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  Hi Corvin.
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  Acts pronoun problems

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it has long been noticed that the book of acts shifts from first to third person and back when describing the legendery travels of paul.

  the author alternates between "we"/"us" to "they" when describing the same characters and narrative.

  this is first seen in chapt.

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  Leolaia once again opening the books. You must have been part of the Christian Encyclopaedia's writers team.

  Thanks again for sharing.
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  It was ME!!! I did it!!!!

  by neverthere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so there i was, entering the grocery store.

  i walked in at the doors and they have the racks of free newspapers,.

  .....there they were, awakes, half a dozen or so.

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  Neverthere, good job!

  Blondie, you mean girl.

  Both of you, keep up the good work on behalf of mankind!

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  April 1st, 2004 Watchtower

  by sandy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has anybody read this article on the wild beast?

  it is the wild beast and 666 on the cover.. i'm curious to know what some of your thoughts are on the article.

  if there is already a thread on the topic i would appreciate someone directing me to it..

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  the April 1 st WT dealing with 666. They say here that some have had fanciful and contrived ideas in the past that 666 was the Roman Papacy or a Roman emperor. The truth is those fanciful ideas were in fact ours. If you read the Finished Mystery you would know that.

  Shotgun, the above is very interesting.

  It reminds me of another interesting case on the Watchtower mag of Jan 1, 1986 (portuguese edition), which says that "some have suggested" that the count of horsemen of Revelation were 5, not 4, when in fact was the GB themselves who had taught this all along.

  WT dishonest at its best indeed.

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  April 1st, 2004 Watchtower

  by sandy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has anybody read this article on the wild beast?

  it is the wild beast and 666 on the cover.. i'm curious to know what some of your thoughts are on the article.

  if there is already a thread on the topic i would appreciate someone directing me to it..

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  Blondie,

  you're right on the money once again!

  "This does not mean, however, that every human ruler is a direct tool of Satan."

  "Some leaders have protected fundamental human rights, including the right to engage in true worship--something that Satan does not want."

  The two statements above are exactly the ones that caught my attention too. Isn't it amazing how the Soc moves away from dogmatic positions taught for so many decades? How clever! Not even a word about the past position. It will take just a few more decades for the 'human rulers' to become "tools" of God (shaking head in disbelief).

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  The JW Effect ? Lack of life planning

  by Gopher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as jw?s we were taught that the day of jehovah was always near.

  we were to keep it close in mind.

  those using the world were not to ?use it to the full?.

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  Martini,

  I am disgusted when I think how this religion has robbed us of precious TIME. So much so that I have a difficult time shifting my focus to the present with hopes that I can find some personal success. My only purpose at this time is to provide for my family.

  Robing people of precious time is, in my view, one of the worst things of this religion. I agree 100% with you on the above.

  Observador.