Oh - I wanted to mention...
Abbadon, I admire your postings and logic - always makes sense to me
historical problems, inconsistencies, and contradictions comprise a significant part of the bible: .
(1) "thirty and two years old was he (jehoram--ed.
) when he began to reign, and he reigned in jerusalem 8 years, and departed without being desired.
Oh - I wanted to mention...
Abbadon, I admire your postings and logic - always makes sense to me
historical problems, inconsistencies, and contradictions comprise a significant part of the bible: .
(1) "thirty and two years old was he (jehoram--ed.
) when he began to reign, and he reigned in jerusalem 8 years, and departed without being desired.
A Paduan -
Many cultures hold sacred their "Inspired" books - the Quran (as an example) or you could look to the "Book of Mormons" that claims inspiration. Exactly how would you refute the inspiration by God of these writings if "inaccuracy does not equal un-inspired". I remember from my JW days, relying on the inaccuracy of the Book of Mormon (as an example) to comfort myself that the Bible was truly God's word and to point out the "error of their ways" when they happened to call.
If you "googled" inspired writings, you'd be amazed at how many claim God's inspiration. Perhaps he's inspired them all...
hmmm, they must not have appreciated "lurkers"... they've set it up now that you have to be a registered member to read the posts.
too bad - it was worth a laugh (or too), and it served as a big reminder why a person would never want to go back!!!
talk about control
Its where active JW's build each other up spiritually. We had a thread here on a "Post-Armeggedon" post from this site.
hmmm, they must not have appreciated "lurkers"... they've set it up now that you have to be a registered member to read the posts.
too bad - it was worth a laugh (or too), and it served as a big reminder why a person would never want to go back!!!
talk about control
Soooo, they can "lurk" here - but no-one is allowed to see their precious "truths". They must have tired of us "copy & pasting" (the pearls before swine) their insightful comments and tearing them apart (or laughing OUR asses off).
hmmm, they must not have appreciated "lurkers"... they've set it up now that you have to be a registered member to read the posts.
too bad - it was worth a laugh (or too), and it served as a big reminder why a person would never want to go back!!!
talk about control
Hmmm, they must not have appreciated "lurkers"... they've set it up now that you have to be a registered member to read the posts. Too bad - it was worth a laugh (or too), and it served as a BIG REMINDER why a person would never want to go back!!!
Talk about control
in another thread, mini questioned why the wts does not see that the gb and elders are like the pharisees.
what do you all think are the "rules" jws have been given that smack of pharisaical (is that a word?
) burdening and/or hypocricy?.
The 6 months, 1 year - or longer "rule", of attending meeting (with no one talking to you) to PROVE repentance, before they'll consider re-instatement.
is there proof?.
i know they "disassociated" from the dpi, but did they also disassociate completely from the un as an ngo?
i wrote and asked the wtbts, but never got a response.
hawkaw - thanks.
If we're still associated as an NGO - isn't that still apart of the "beast".
I mean that NGO is voluntary as well, isn't it. Not every religion is listed, are they??? How far back does the original NGO application go back? Before 1991?
I got all the DPI stuff - emails, letters, etc., but I guess the point being, if the NGO is still active, the JW org is still "apart of the Beast", regardless of the DPI requirement to "support the UN charter".
Am I missing something?
is there proof?.
i know they "disassociated" from the dpi, but did they also disassociate completely from the un as an ngo?
i wrote and asked the wtbts, but never got a response.
Does anyone know? Is there proof?
I know they "disassociated" from the DPI, but did they also disassociate COMPLETELY from the UN as an NGO?
I wrote and asked the WTBTS, but never got a response. I'd be verrrry interested in knowing.
share one of the odder/funnier talks you've heard (where the manuscript went out the window, along with any degree of decorum, preferably).
one time a brother had a 15 minute part and he spoke very calmly and relaxed.
he smiled all the time, but the part seemed aimless.
This isn't funny, and I'm ashamed of myself for not walking out (God, I wanted to!!!!) but we had a CO visit and he had a talk on "Divorce"... ohhh, by the way, I'm divorced, and NOT scripturally.
Apparently, when we "divorce" - hoards of witnesses do it on "frivilous grounds", you know, just like the ancient Isrealite men who divorced their wives over a burnt meal (hell, if that was the standard, my ex would have gott'n rid of me before I got rid of him)....
Anyhooo, his talk progressed to include spousal abuse. He used the example of a "faithful witness wife" who endured years of physical abuse (to the point of death), but she remained with the unbelieving husband, who eventually OF COURSE converted. Apparently, after the "beating" she'd massage his feet !!!! WHAT THE @(#*)#(!!!!! Are we telling "good christian women" to massage the feet of their husbands who abuse them?!?!? Like I said, I was SICK.
I could imagine how many sisters are sitting there in horrible marriages, and feel they have no way out. You think we could tell them about "shelters". It was a definite turning point for me.
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hello everyone,.
i would like to know who of you thinks that humans have a free will and who thinks humans do rather work like a very complex computer.. in my opinion free will is an illusion generated by our brain....what do you think?.
Maybe (scratch that, I am) simple minded, but I love "free will". I don't give a #?@!! damn about the definition or "philosophy" of it - all I know, is I'm FREE of the Borg, so everything I decide for myself definitely feels like "free will".
By the way, if you believe in God (I don't know....) I don't think he should have equipped us with this concept, because he F*#)@()(!! up majorly by allowing us to make our own "choice". Therefore he made a mistake - hmmmm, perfect?!?!?! If he exists, then things are exactly the way they should be.