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  Why is it cool to make fun of blonds, but not black people?

  by Satanus in

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  discuss.

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  Because black people will "get" the joke...

  Blondes on the other hand....
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  JWs--cult or am i just bitter?

  by sinamongurl in

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  after reading many experiences and comments on the board, i have begun to have questions.

  questions that i really didnt know i until i read them.

  as a recently df'd person, i am still struggling with whether jws are really a cult or is it just that im bitter for being torn away from the only thing that i knew, where i had friends that i thought loved me.

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  I was watching Oprah the other day. It was about women who committed crimes. Near the end, she interviewed two girls - one who had family support and learnt from her crime/mistake, the other girl was "thrown away" from her parents and had no family support. Oprah made it very clear the mental/social implication of "discarding" someone.

  I believe this is what we struggle with the most and why there are so many support groups for ex-JWs. We've been "discarded". We're told we're unworthy and disposable.

  I believe we join together to reinforce ourselves, to prove to ourselves that we do have "worth". That it is morally wrong to discard someone.

  I believe that any organization (be it work, volunteer organzations, religions) have the right to remove people from groups that don't follow the group's rules, and individuals have a right to leave if they no longer support the group. BUT, I disagree with the excess JWs take with the total "cutting off" from friends and family. Even in society, when you commit a crime, and are sent to prison, you are allowed visits from friends and family.
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  Funny link!!!!!!!!

  by Gadget in

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  i just found this amazing link, it takes a long time to load but its worth it!.

  http://www.killfrog.com/newpages/ever.html

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  I can't have kids
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  Joanie, the Jehovah's Witness Stripper

  by hemp lover in

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  that's the title of the song that was playing when i got in my car after work tonight.

  pretty funny tune by paul thorn (www.paulthorn.com).

  it was just a guy and his guitar, recorded live in a tennesse farmhouse.. .

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  The first time I heard this song was at a country jamboree. Pouring rain and cold!!!! Chris Cummings (who I later met) sang this song!!!

  My sis (who's majorly pregnant at the time) and I almost fall over backwards laughing. I couldn't believe it
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  Ethical Relativism

  by Tashawaa in

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  for work, i'm taking an ethics seminar (with test) in my industry.

  the focus of the course should be on the code of conduct we will govern ourselves by and the consequences of not doing so (basically a group ethic).

  however after i've read the course material, the author is very biased towards ethical relativism.. his comments range from:.

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  Well, I got through the course. I was the first one to the class, so I had a second to speak with the author and instructor of the ethics material. After introducing ourselves, I told him that I noticed he wasn't a fan of "Relativism". He right away asked me if I had a BA or took any university courses. I told him "no", but that I have a personal interest in ethics and have read much on the subject. Then I quoted some source materials that I've used. I told him I disagreed with his definiation and use of the term "Ethical Relativity". He said that his audience usually doesn't have any exposure to ethics and its theories... thats it, so I let it go.

  In class, we get to the part dealing with this theory. A slide is displayed with :

  "Ethical Relativism (Me First): There is no such thing as a universal moral principal to govern my behaviour. Everthing is relative, situational, negotiable, and up for grabs by whoever wishes to define what the values are for this particular occasion. Each new situation requires me to redefine my values and actions with me having the last say on what is right or wrong."

  So he's going on that this "Relativist" attitude is only a recent phenomenon (uhhh, hello, its been debated since the 5th century) and that its due to TV watching. That parents aren't training their children anymore with moral values (BS). Everyone in class seems to be buying into it. So I speak up.

  "My understanding of Ethical Relativism from all the sources I've read, define it as "the viewpoint that ethics/morals are not absolute, but instead emerge from social customs and other sources" and that what he's describing is an unethical person or perhaps Egoism.

  He says "egoism" grows out of Relativism.... really?!?!? new one to me. I know Utilitarian may come out of it, but this is a new one to me! So I said it.

  He was flustered, and quite frankly, this wasn't the forum to debate him, so I just said that I wanted to make my point that I did not agree with his definition and use of the word.

  Sporatically in the conversation, he would actually be promoting "relativism" in the class, and I would speak up and ask "isn't that relativity?" He would agree, because it was, and move on.

  I don't know what his problem is with the theory (ignorance? bias???) but we got to hand in accessments afterwards. I marked him good on presentation, speech, etc. but I was honest in other areas and in my comments included that the use of what a "relativist would do (unethical decisions)" was inflammitory and biased.

  I feel so much better now!!!!!
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  Ethical Relativism

  by Tashawaa in

  1. jw
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  for work, i'm taking an ethics seminar (with test) in my industry.

  the focus of the course should be on the code of conduct we will govern ourselves by and the consequences of not doing so (basically a group ethic).

  however after i've read the course material, the author is very biased towards ethical relativism.. his comments range from:.

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  it's a lack of ethics

  Exactly. Thats what he's describing. The thing is I can't get into a full-fledged debate, as I don't have all my "ducks in a row" (in the sense of reading material), BUT, I know this guy is way off base!!!

  Anyone doing a "google" search, will in the basics of the theory NOT arrive at this guy's conclusions.

  In alot of ways I think this view of Absolute and Relativism is just another form of God vs Evolution.
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  Ethical Relativism

  by Tashawaa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for work, i'm taking an ethics seminar (with test) in my industry.

  the focus of the course should be on the code of conduct we will govern ourselves by and the consequences of not doing so (basically a group ethic).

  however after i've read the course material, the author is very biased towards ethical relativism.. his comments range from:.

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  Tashawaa

  For work, I'm taking an Ethics seminar (with test) in my industry. The focus of the course SHOULD be on the code of conduct we will govern ourselves by and the consequences of not doing so (basically a Group Ethic). However after I've read the course material, the author is very biased towards Ethical Relativism.

  His comments range from:

  " Matthew (the case study example) found that ethical relativism is based on an erroneous belief. It states there is no such thing as a universal moral principle and that only the individual's beliefs are real. But in fact, there is much research that states there are universal moral principles that are cross cultural."

  "Ethical Relativism (Me First): There is no such thing as a universal moral principal to govern my behaviour. Everthing is relative, situational, negotiable, and up for grabs by whoever wishes to define what the values are for this particular occasion. Each new situation requires me to redefine my values and actions with me having the last say on what is right or wrong."

  He confuses Utilitarian Ethics with Relativism. In one case study Matthew would be making an unethical (and illegal) choice by buying shares via insider trading. His comment is "Using just this ethical system, Matthew could well choose to buy the shares for himself. This would be the ethical relativist's choice."

  UGH, I'm so frustrated. My understanding of Ethical Relativism is the viewpoint that ethics/morals are not absolute, but instead emerge from social customs and other sources. I lean towards this theory, and recognize that Relativism has its strengths and weaknesses (as does Absolute Ethics).

  I just don't agree with him presenting the material in such a biased manner. He obviously perscribes to an "absolutist" point of view, and as such is presenting the relativism as an equivalent to an immoral, unethical, selfish, "godless" view.

  I want to speak up. I don't know if its appropriate to raise these issues in the class (it is an ethics seminar) or speak to him before the seminar and let him know I felt his view of relativism was biased. I don't want to be "quiet" about it, because it will give a class room of people the wrong impression of this ethical theory.
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  We are deep into the "last days" - since 1799! (warning long)

  by Tashawaa in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  found the ?thy kingdom come?

  book on the net (

  http://www.mychris.tk/

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  Chapter 2 of the "Thy Kingdom Come" book goes into detail of how Napoleon was the fulfillment of Daniel and Revelation. His fulfillment of bible prophecy is what ushered in the "last days" of 1799.

  I never knew any of these past teachings. I always wondered how other religions would "calculate" or use historic events as bible fulfillment, and here I found an alternative view in the JW beginnings.
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  We are deep into the "last days" - since 1799! (warning long)

  by Tashawaa in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  found the ?thy kingdom come?

  book on the net (

  http://www.mychris.tk/

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  http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/kingdomcome/study2.html

  http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/kingdomcome/study9.html

  I give up!!!! What I had hoped to post was how Napoleon "fulfilled" bible prophecy in Daniel and Revelation and their "proof" of how the last days begun in 1799. Some of it was funny stuff, but sad at the same time. Same old bible passages used (as they do today) BUT with completely DIFFERENT meanings!
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  We are deep into the "last days" - since 1799! (warning long)

  by Tashawaa in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  found the ?thy kingdom come?

  book on the net (

  http://www.mychris.tk/

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  And thus the present is a day of preparation (through such an overthrow) for the establishment of the universal dominion of the