Posts by AndDontCallMeShirley

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Midweek Meetings no longer Necessary

by Tech49 in

i am sure we have all seen the recent letter to the boe concerning the change that will take place to the meeting arrangement during the week of the co visit.

to recap the basics: the meeting that usually contains the cong bible study (book study) and a co talk will be discontinued, publishers are encouraged to use their family worship night that week to cover book study material.. so here is a point that i think has been missed, or not even considered:.

if that particular meeting is hereby deleted from the schedule, the co and his wife will never ever have to participate in or go to another "book study", or "bible study" night again.

AndDontCallMeShirley

"The fact you ascert that I haven't seen much in the org is just my point"

> I never said or implied this. Read my post again.

"you post stuff that is not true, even if that has been your experience"

> Ummmm....if I've experienced it personally, then it's true. If you read enough posts here, you'll know my experiences are not unique. The group experience constitutes valid evidence.

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The point is this, NSWTG: Look at the WT system as a whole. Is it working? Or, is it hopelessly broken? As a whole, do COs/DOs and other "glorious ones" reflect Christ's example? Or, do they instead mimic the religious systems they condemn??

"and again none of this helps those who are just starting out on mentally leaving...So why post that if it doesn't help one bit..."

> You don't know this. Sometimes calling a spade a spade is precisely the wake-up call a JW needs. If a JW visits here and reads my post, and decides WT is where they'll stay no matter what and that I'm a bitter critic, then they weren't ready to leave in the first place, and my statements are irrelevant to their thinking or the decisions they make.

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only JW's can analize scripture because they are spiritual

by never a jw in

only spiritual people can read scripture.

may 17, 2014. dear never a jw,.

but logic tells me we are just not on the same page, and will never agree until we are.. elder.

AndDontCallMeShirley

@ never a jw: ADCMS,I read the part of the reasoning book but missed the significance of the comment regarding their typical circular reasoning

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I was pointing out that the first move a JW always makes to prove their point is to go to WT literature. They'll rarely direct you to something other than WT literature to support any argument. In this case, the elder immediately tells you to read the Reasoning book.....

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Thus weeks cong book study! Such double standards.

by stuckinarut2 in

ok so this weeks book study says that jehovah does not protect individuals in a miraculous way..... but the yearbook gets filled with so called experiences of "faithful" ones blabbering on about "how god saved me etc".

these ones are held up as examples of faith etc....... how do they justify the double standards?

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AndDontCallMeShirley

How do they justify the double standards?

WT is "God's Organization". Anything is fair game...as long as god smiles on your every move.

I'd love to see a new, official WT slogan that is truthful: "WT: Home of Massive Hypocrisy and the Double Standard".

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Final post I can't come to this forum anymore!

by hoser in

jw
friends

i have come to the conclusion that posting here and visiting this site is not healthy for me anymore.

i just get angry and upset when i read all the stories of injustice and corruption that go on in the jehovahs witness religion.

they are true no doubt, as i have personally experienced many injustices and abuses in my life from being a witness.

AndDontCallMeShirley

"Religion is a snare and a racket!"

Ironically, the only true thing Rutherfraud ever said!

Good luck to you, hoser. I wish you all the best in your journey.

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Midweek Meetings no longer Necessary

by Tech49 in

i am sure we have all seen the recent letter to the boe concerning the change that will take place to the meeting arrangement during the week of the co visit.

to recap the basics: the meeting that usually contains the cong bible study (book study) and a co talk will be discontinued, publishers are encouraged to use their family worship night that week to cover book study material.. so here is a point that i think has been missed, or not even considered:.

if that particular meeting is hereby deleted from the schedule, the co and his wife will never ever have to participate in or go to another "book study", or "bible study" night again.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Incidentally, NSWTG, the final straw that elicited my exit from WT was due precisely to the unjust, political, lying, WT Company Man tactics of a Circuit Overseer !! There was a lot that led up that point, but in the end, it was his actions that exposed the WT and it's appointed men for who and what they are.

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Midweek Meetings no longer Necessary

by Tech49 in

i am sure we have all seen the recent letter to the boe concerning the change that will take place to the meeting arrangement during the week of the co visit.

to recap the basics: the meeting that usually contains the cong bible study (book study) and a co talk will be discontinued, publishers are encouraged to use their family worship night that week to cover book study material.. so here is a point that i think has been missed, or not even considered:.

if that particular meeting is hereby deleted from the schedule, the co and his wife will never ever have to participate in or go to another "book study", or "bible study" night again.

AndDontCallMeShirley

@ NSWTG: Utter nonsense and you have labelled all CO's with the same brush

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I hear what you're saying, NSWTG, but here's my perspective:

I am a fourth generation JW. I have relatives who've been CO's, DO's, Special Pioneers, highly influential elders, etc. Hell, as a teenager I used to sit in the same room with Fred Franz and other GB members at District Conventions ! I'm not saying this to brag, I'm saying it to establish that I know what I'm talking about, I've seen things- lots of things. In my 40+ years as a JW, I can recall one, maybe two, COs that I feel genuinely cared for the flock. The rest? Company men! I've seen some of these nitwits do the most unjust, unloving things to the R&F in order to protect an elder or cover WT interests. It may seem unfair to paint all COs with the "same brush", but I'll tell you from experience, a genuine CO is a very rare exception, not the rule. The entire system operates exactly as designed.

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A CO officially represents the WTBTS- not the local elders, not the cong., not the publishers. The CO's primary job is to make sure the WT's interests are served first and foremost, and that WT policy is enforced. Additionally, the one CO I mentioned above as being genuine??? He 'retired' from Circuit work early because in his efforts to be a good man by being "more concerned about people" than company (WT) policy brought him truckloads of grief. He couldn't take it anymore so left the Circuit work.

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NSWTG: I much prefer JWR website where you don't get that feeling from posters

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If you look only for opinions that match your pre-conceived ideas you won't learn much. Step out of your comfort zone and listen to those that have seen a thing or two.

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only JW's can analize scripture because they are spiritual

by never a jw in

only spiritual people can read scripture.

may 17, 2014. dear never a jw,.

but logic tells me we are just not on the same page, and will never agree until we are.. elder.

AndDontCallMeShirley

"You can read about it in the reasoning book"

Classic !!

In other words, if you want to verify that WT is correct, please refer to WT literature.... where it says that WT is correct.

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Midweek Meetings no longer Necessary

by Tech49 in

i am sure we have all seen the recent letter to the boe concerning the change that will take place to the meeting arrangement during the week of the co visit.

to recap the basics: the meeting that usually contains the cong bible study (book study) and a co talk will be discontinued, publishers are encouraged to use their family worship night that week to cover book study material.. so here is a point that i think has been missed, or not even considered:.

if that particular meeting is hereby deleted from the schedule, the co and his wife will never ever have to participate in or go to another "book study", or "bible study" night again.

AndDontCallMeShirley

@ Magnum: We used to hear that the Congregation Book Study (meeting in small groups) was essential to our spiritual well-being

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I guess, logically then, in the 1900 years from Jesus to modern-day WT, every Christian was simply S.O.L., since no "Congregation Book Study" arrangement existed. Imagine Jesus having to reject millions of Christians for "spiritual weakness" because they had no WT meetings to attend. You'd think he would've seen that coming ahead of time.....

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Midweek Meetings no longer Necessary

by Tech49 in

i am sure we have all seen the recent letter to the boe concerning the change that will take place to the meeting arrangement during the week of the co visit.

to recap the basics: the meeting that usually contains the cong bible study (book study) and a co talk will be discontinued, publishers are encouraged to use their family worship night that week to cover book study material.. so here is a point that i think has been missed, or not even considered:.

if that particular meeting is hereby deleted from the schedule, the co and his wife will never ever have to participate in or go to another "book study", or "bible study" night again.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Here's how things work:

If Joe Average JW Publisher misses a meeting during the CO's visit, he's "unfaithful", "spritually weak", and "unappreciative" of Jehovah's™ provisions.

If the GB decides to permanently cancel that same meeting, it is now a "loving provision".

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What is this new Announcement to take place in August?

by Quarterback in

just heard from an elder.

he told me that there is another change to be announced in august.

he didn't know more about it.. any other info?.

AndDontCallMeShirley

And September's WT Study Edition will contain the article: "Sticks- A Loving Provision of Jehovah™"

Followed by November's Study article: "Toilet Paper and Flushing Toilets- Deadly Snares of Satan".