do not 'true Christians' [tm] abstain from voting on mundane matters, like filthy lucre?
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It's only wrong when non-JWs do it
AndDontCallMeShirley
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The resolution was actually passed!
by stillin inwho would have thought that enough people would raise their hands when the resolution was put before the congregation tonight?
based on the pledges that the publishers put on those little pieces of paper, the congregation is promising the wts that they will send $1,000/month to support the society's building funds.. there is a traditional monthly shortfall of about $100 with the basic monthly bills usually around $1,000.
i didn't raise my hand.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
I'm sure Jehovah™ will just look the other way...all is fair for "The Kingdom" you know, and when a "glorious one" fleeces the flock it's not so bad.
Remember, Jehovah's™ Holy Spirit™ appointed™ this Glorious One™ through the Faithful Slave™ and the Watchtower™ Organization™, all for Kingdom™ interests in these momentous™ Last Days™ before Armageddon™.
It's good to be the king.
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The resolution was actually passed!
by stillin inwho would have thought that enough people would raise their hands when the resolution was put before the congregation tonight?
based on the pledges that the publishers put on those little pieces of paper, the congregation is promising the wts that they will send $1,000/month to support the society's building funds.. there is a traditional monthly shortfall of about $100 with the basic monthly bills usually around $1,000.
i didn't raise my hand.
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Wait until reality sets in and these brain-dead JWs realize the mess they've gotten themselves into !!!
Right now they are so caught up in the "this is for Jehovah, what a loving provision" mode, they aren't even thinking rationally.
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Sign of the Time of the End ---> Armagaddon
by Waiting4TheKingdom infive events to come and to watch for:.
1 world leaders say peace and security!
- they "say" this but may not fully "achieve" this.
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@ Johnamos: Its funny that here I like your user name and profile pic because I like Leslie Nielsen and the airplane and naked gun movies, but yet your replies are ridiculous
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Wow, John...I just don't know if I'll be able to sleep tonight knowing you don't like me or my posts.
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Sign of the Time of the End ---> Armagaddon
by Waiting4TheKingdom infive events to come and to watch for:.
1 world leaders say peace and security!
- they "say" this but may not fully "achieve" this.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
And you state this as dating back to the 50’s…LOL! It dates back to the book of Revelation and even Daniel
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Are you saying, then, that those sheep herders 4,000 years ago were sitting around formulating a plan for a NWO and one world government?? Doubtful.
Typical of religious nutters, you always look back after something has happened, make it fit your pre-conceived ideas as to some fictitious fulfillment of "prophecy", then declare how smart you are and how the Bible was right all along. But, you can never do it ahead of time.
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WMF: valid point. If the land was purchased at the top of the market in 2008, then it's bad timing. But I think the issue here centers on a few key things:
1. Was there any real emergency to sell the land immediately and take a $155,000 loss? If not, and the situation was put to the congregation for a vote (you know, asking the opinion of the people who actually paid for the property in the first place !!), maybe the consensus would be to simply wait for prices to come up or to see if competitive bids are offered if listed through a realtor for 6-12 months.
2. Was the land even put on the market and bids considered? If not, then selling it to an elder/trustee seems to be a backroom, sweetheart deal for no other purpose than personal gain.
3. The congregation has not been told about any of this. Why??? If all is being done honestly there is no reason not to keep the congregation informed, or better yet, allow them to vote BEFORE decisions are made. It's their money.
4. I'm wondering if the sale is even legal? Can a trustee for a non-profit buy property that he is entrusted to sell, especially if that property is sold at a huge loss to the people he's supposed to be looking out for?
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@redvip: To make analogy, let's say i want to buy a house for $265K. I ask my family to please lend me the money, which they do. So i buy the house for $265K, then a year later i sell the house to myself for $110K without them knowing. How did I make any money here? The previous owner kept the $265K and now i actually owe a least a part of the 110K.
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Your analogy makes no sense.
1. If you borrow $265,000 from your family to buy a house, and they expect to be re-paid, you now owe them $265,000.
2. You cannot sell a house to yourself that you already own
3. If you purchased a house for $265,000 with money you borrowed from your family, and you then sell that same house for $110,000, you've just taken a $155,000 loss....money that is owed to your family.
4. Since your family expects to be re-paid and you haven't told them you've lost their money, that's a scam. The money wasn't yours to lose in the first place, and making a foolish decision doesn't excuse the loss.
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[edit] I see you posted above and understand the situation better. This further explanation should help.
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@ red:
The cong. paid $265,000 for the land in 2008 for a new KH. Then the elders decided they didn't want the land so told the cong. it was being sold. One of the two elders entrusted with the responsibility of making sure the land was sold at fair market value purchased it for himself: for $110,000.
The scam is that he bought the land for $155,000 less than what it's worth, and the congregation has no idea this is what has happened. They are unaware that they have taken a huge loss so this elder trustee can make out like a bandit. Do you think this deal would have been approved had the facts been presented to the congregation?
You don't see any problem with this????
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Jehovah vs. Jehovah - A comparison
by processor ingetting to know the warrior who gives peace we can learn something about god when we are concerned with people like jacob, who saw god face to face.
(gen. 32:30) true, moses and aaron, nadab and abihu and seventy of the older men of israel proceeded to go up, and they got to see the god of israel.
24:9, 10.someone who has seen god face to face surely would be able to teach us many things about him.
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"Are we not grateful that God’s word provides clear and distinct answers to many important questions?"
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Clarity would be nice. Unfortunately.....most things are as clear as mud, hence, over 30,000 Christian sects all using the same crystal-clear Word of God.
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"14. Is lying appropriate for Christians? Explain."
Yes, but it depends on who you are. If you are a "glorious one" (an elder) or the WT/GB, then lying is acceptable. It's called "Theocratic War Strategy". However, if you are not The Faithful Slave (7 men out of 8 million JWs) or a glorious one, then lying is definitely wrong and god will punish you.
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Four Jehovah's Witnesses face death penalty - Victim of Pakistan's Blasphemy Law.
by Sol Reform infour jehovah's witnesses face death penalty - victim of pakistan's blasphemy law.. http://www.charismanews.com/world/44004-popular-tv-show-the-latest-victim-of-pakistan-s-blasphemy-law.
popular tv show the latest victim of pakistan's blasphemy law 10:00am edt 5/28/2014.
world watch monitor film actress veena malik and her husband, assad khattak khan, were charged with blasphemy after a re-enactment of their wedding appeared on "utho jago pakistan.
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@ NAVYTOWN: I feel sorry for the arrested JWs.....I wonder what the Governing Body is doing to help them???
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No doubt the GB is "leaving it in Jehovah's hands"...which means doing nothing.
The GB has a new country club project in Warwick to focus on...it can't be bothered with the troubles of a few "domestics".
WT defends its own corporate interests; it does not defend individual JWs, unless the individual happens to be a pedophile...then WT assigns a team of lawyers to come to the rescue.