"The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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"The best argument against Fundamentalist Christian theology is a five minute conversation with "seekchristonly" ". --- ADCMS
fusion with god natural .
in the cosmos universe or whatever.
all things are made of the same materials etc so humans will always be fused with the universe in life and death because those building blocks are eternal.
"The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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"The best argument against Fundamentalist Christian theology is a five minute conversation with "seekchristonly" ". --- ADCMS
breaking news :charity commission takes watchtower to charity tribunal in britain.
two weeks ago we run an article about the abuse case in moston manchester congregation .it would seem that the coverage from the main local newspaper manchester evening news and two national newspapers has alarmed the charity commission the official regulator for charities in england and wales and now for the first time !
they opened an official investigation on both charities ,the local one ,moston congragation and the central one jehovah's witnesses of britain indicating that in their eyes these two are connected and liable for any misconduct .this is the time for a concentrated campaign from all of us to inform the charity commission why the watchtower should not be a called a charity .the article above has a link for the charity commission complaint page .follow it!.
"Look for the ORG start some form of charity, even if it's only for JWs
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They are already doing it.
Look up "Jah Jireh Homes" on the Net. While they claim to have no affiliation with WT, it has WT written all over it. Nursing homes exclusively for JWs, run by JWs, and they abide by all WT rules. And they also claim charity status.
this week's study april 15th 2014 was called "do you see the one who is invisible?".
it was perhaps one of the most depressing, controlling, fear-mongering, stress inducing, doctrinally incorrect, hate-inspiring, judgemental, cult-like, irrational, hyped-up, critical, crazy, stretched out, fanciful, illogical, burdensome, inflated, coersive, manipulative, and brain-snappingly weird stuff i have read for some time.... (but i'm sure it was just a rehash and repeat of previous stuff...for the new masses....).
i had to keep up a sane appearance while in the hall, and even answer some garbage while this was being 'studied'... my cognitive disonance must be so strong now, because i found this one of the hardest ones to endure....now that i am home, i have poured a stiff drink and am trying to clear my head...... one paragraph was classic:.
Jehovahs people are conveying an important message: "fear god and give him glory because the hour of judgement by him has arrived"
Isn't this the same message every other Fundamentalist religion is proclaiming??
i would be interested to know if the announcement came of an immenent nuclear war would you start praying or get drunk etc etc..
I did not say he does not help others .There is no distinction between peoples tribes antions and toungues .Once again it your own desire to pull down , tell me is this how you treat people in your life.Youmust be really popular.Bless !
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I see from other threads this is your usual tactic. Not only do you not answer the question, you turn it around, read things into comments that are not there, then make a personal attack out of it.
I'm wondering why you bother posting topics or ask questions...you obviously have no tolerance for views other than your own.
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I did not say he does not help others
No, you said he helps YOU... everytime. My question to you was: how then do you explain it when a person of equal faith does not receive and anser to their prayers??
Or does god bend the Laws of the Universe all the time just for you and only some of the time for the rest of humanity?
i would be interested to know if the announcement came of an immenent nuclear war would you start praying or get drunk etc etc..
Messiah did not fail me ever not once.
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The next question the uber self-righteous Christian needs to answer, if you want to make such a claim, is this: what is your explanation for when another person of equal faith and equal devotion to yours, or greater, prays with as much intensity as you did...yet got nothing for their effort??
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You see, once you claim that god or Jesus has answered your prayers and did something for you, you are now under obligation to explain why he doesn't help the next guy who prayed with just as much faith...
i would be interested to know if the announcement came of an immenent nuclear war would you start praying or get drunk etc etc..
“Nearly everyone in ancient Egypt exhorted the gods to let the Pharaoh live 'forever'. These collective prayers failed. Their failure constitutes data.”
--- Carl Sagan
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Whether you pray to Egyptian gods, the "I am", Baal, Yahweh, Thor, Zeus, or anyone one of the 30,000 other gods in history is pointless because the end result is the same: none of the prayers are, or ever have been, answered.
This collective failure constitutes data.
i would be interested to know if the announcement came of an immenent nuclear war would you start praying or get drunk etc etc..
Messiah came and put an end to religion and organised systems so the KIngdom within can be established
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And yet he's stood idly by for 2,000 years and watched while Christianity became the very institution he allegedly condemned- yet did nothing to stop it. Interesting.
Isn't that a massive failure?
You have the same mentality as the WT: Jesus has allegedly been the most powerful king heading the most powerful government for 100 years now...and not a damn thing has changed under that rulership. MASSIVE FAILURE (again).
this week's study april 15th 2014 was called "do you see the one who is invisible?".
it was perhaps one of the most depressing, controlling, fear-mongering, stress inducing, doctrinally incorrect, hate-inspiring, judgemental, cult-like, irrational, hyped-up, critical, crazy, stretched out, fanciful, illogical, burdensome, inflated, coersive, manipulative, and brain-snappingly weird stuff i have read for some time.... (but i'm sure it was just a rehash and repeat of previous stuff...for the new masses....).
i had to keep up a sane appearance while in the hall, and even answer some garbage while this was being 'studied'... my cognitive disonance must be so strong now, because i found this one of the hardest ones to endure....now that i am home, i have poured a stiff drink and am trying to clear my head...... one paragraph was classic:.
"Under angelic direction, Jehovahs people are conveying an important message: "fear god and give him glory because the hour of judgement by him has arrived"
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Really?
According to the recent WT video commercials for the Atlanta International Convention and other cities, Jehovah's Witnesses' message is, "Get ready for the time of your life!"
The theme is: come join the big party-tours, dances, concerts, dining, nightlife- not that the end is imminent.
Does WT actually believe anything it says????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=potrr2qxhue.
.. if armageddon is "imminent", why is wt focused on sight-seeing, entertainment, travel, etc.
instead of preaching and saving people??.
I was in Atlanta yesterday and the road that runs along south of the Georgia Dome is closed and the lots on both sides are under construction. Martin Luther King Jr Blvd is closed at the Georgia Dome.
but 400, which goes to the area shown on the map in the video has construction as well.
This will be intersting....Centennial park will be tough to get to as well
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Anyone see a pattern here?
Atlanta: torn up with construction
Detroit: on the verge of bankruptcy, high crime, massive internal decay
New Orleans: virtually unchanged after Katrina obliterated it in 2005 ( I was there, I've seen if for myself). Blight, high crime, fiscally stressed, massive internal decay.
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WT is gravitating toward chaos because it can get bargain basement deals ($0 cost/big kickbacks to WT- same rates to JWs attending and WT expects full value donations for the convention). Who cares about the conditions JWs have to endure? The risk of getting held up at gunpoint in Detroit? Whatever. As long as WT gets a deal, the details are irrelevant.
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2015 schedule for conventions: Fallujah and Baghdad.
i would be interested to know if the announcement came of an immenent nuclear war would you start praying or get drunk etc etc..
Death is where fusion takes place and the atoms that you are made of which is compressed energy hedl together by magnetic forces are released so fusion with God takes places because God is made of the same stuff
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If death is oh-so-wonderful, why do religious people seem to always beg their god to preserve their life when they are about to lose it??
It seems absurdly hypocritical.