Because WT must get its pound of flesh, and humiliation of the individual is of utmost importance to WT's methodology. Allowing an elder to simply step down to MS wouldn't serve WT's purpose of completely eviscerating a man, so it knocks him down to the rank of publisher/also-ran/has been/loser to teach him a lesson.
AndDontCallMeShirley
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Elders Can't Simply Go Back to Being Ministerial Servants...
by TTATTelder inas a currently serving "awake" elder caught in the web of family, spouse, employer, etc.
etc..... i have often wondered why an elder cannot simply drop back to ministerial servant if he so desired (because of stress, circumstances, health).. on paper a currently serving elder in good standing more than qualifies to be a ms. that is obviously the case by their own hierarchy structure and definitions of qualification.. but...under their current arrangement....theoretically a man could give a district convention talk one week to 10,000 people, step down as an elder the following day due to stress, and not "qualify" to give a 5 min part on the next week's service meeting in front of 50 people.
doesn't make a lot of sense.. so my question is this.....why do you think the wt forces a man to drop all the way "down" to publisher if he no longer wants to serve as an elder?.
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Clean the JUNK out of your vocabulary and it follows, you will clean up your ability to THINK
by Terry inthere are certain "junk" words that litter our brain, pollute our vocabulary, and play fast and loose with our reasoning.. one of those junk words is spirit.. the words means nothing, but extrapolations of its metaphorical pretense are everywhere!.
we have five sense connected with our body link to brain.. hearing, vision, taste, touch, sense of smell.. with those five we are in touch with things as they exist.. reality is what it is.. through technology, science has been able to amplify our senses with microscopes, telescopes, x-rays, mri's, space probes, atom smashers, etc.. but--i assure you--none of this has produced evidence of "spirit.".
the last thing that happens when you die is this.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
RELIGION's method of arriving at "truth" is :
1. Smoke, inject or swab a hallucinogenic substance,
2. Latch onto the first wacky idea that enters your brain,
3. make a doctrine out of it,
4. claim god gave you the idea,
5. force/hornschwaggle/dupe lots of people into believing you,
6. condemn everyone else who doesn't buy into it (i.e. anyone with an IQ higher than a salad bar).
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So Happy to Learn About Homemade Weed Killer
by Iown Mylife inthree days ago we mixed up the recipe and sprayed the driveway cracks and several places where the weeds have been hard to get rid of.. today the weeds are dead just like when we've sprayed commercial weed killer.. mix one gallon white vinegar, 1 cup salt, 5 to 6 tablespoons of dawn dishwashing liquid.
note: don't spray if it's fixin' to rain, wait for dry weather so the stuff will stay on the weeds.
and don't spray where you want anything to grow ever!.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
It is a conundrum....
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Clean the JUNK out of your vocabulary and it follows, you will clean up your ability to THINK
by Terry inthere are certain "junk" words that litter our brain, pollute our vocabulary, and play fast and loose with our reasoning.. one of those junk words is spirit.. the words means nothing, but extrapolations of its metaphorical pretense are everywhere!.
we have five sense connected with our body link to brain.. hearing, vision, taste, touch, sense of smell.. with those five we are in touch with things as they exist.. reality is what it is.. through technology, science has been able to amplify our senses with microscopes, telescopes, x-rays, mri's, space probes, atom smashers, etc.. but--i assure you--none of this has produced evidence of "spirit.".
the last thing that happens when you die is this.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
Paul single-handedly introduced a phony concept into ordinary writings and turned them into numinous hands-on miracles of divine "inspiration."
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And WT continues that fine tradition
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So Happy to Learn About Homemade Weed Killer
by Iown Mylife inthree days ago we mixed up the recipe and sprayed the driveway cracks and several places where the weeds have been hard to get rid of.. today the weeds are dead just like when we've sprayed commercial weed killer.. mix one gallon white vinegar, 1 cup salt, 5 to 6 tablespoons of dawn dishwashing liquid.
note: don't spray if it's fixin' to rain, wait for dry weather so the stuff will stay on the weeds.
and don't spray where you want anything to grow ever!.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
Is paint remover considered a homemade product?
Only if you made it at home
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Giving "Jehovahs spirit" credit for mundane, everyday things!
by BU2B ini am hearing this more and more and it is like nails on a chalkboard.
i hear it from the wt, from elders, from my parents and from jws in general.
this had to be jehovahs spirit!
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AndDontCallMeShirley
"The real problem is not why some pious, humble, believing people suffer, but why some do not." --C.S. Lewis
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Local Needs 07/08/2014
by piztjw ini don't know whether i should laugh, or run screaming into the night.. tonights "local needs" was titled "are you following 'the slave' "?.
the theme scripture was 1 peter 2: 21. it was applied that by following jesus steps closely we would then be able to keep up with 'the slave'.
now i don't know about others, but if i were to follow one person and that meant to keep up with someone else, it would mean that the person i was following was following the other person.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
congregation hours are falling.... "evidently", "surely" and "apparently" due to the fact that so many are "forgetting" how to fill out their slips
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It can't possibly be that JWs aren't going D to D as much. Too unthinkable for WT.
The FS slip is probably the least complicated form WT has. If JWs lack the basic skills to fill it out then they've reached a new low level of stupid.
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Giving "Jehovahs spirit" credit for mundane, everyday things!
by BU2B ini am hearing this more and more and it is like nails on a chalkboard.
i hear it from the wt, from elders, from my parents and from jws in general.
this had to be jehovahs spirit!
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AndDontCallMeShirley
33 JWs die in a typhoon in the Philipines (27 as a direct result of the GB's direction). No Jehovah in sight for that one. "Time and unforseen circumstance" or "well, this is life in Satan's old world", is the explanation from JWs.
But, at least Jehovah™ was Johnny-On-The-Spot to arrange good weather in NY over last summer so the rNWT could be printed.
God sure has his priorities f**ked up.
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Giving "Jehovahs spirit" credit for mundane, everyday things!
by BU2B ini am hearing this more and more and it is like nails on a chalkboard.
i hear it from the wt, from elders, from my parents and from jws in general.
this had to be jehovahs spirit!
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AndDontCallMeShirley
If you get good, you thank God for it.
If you get bad, you ask God for strength and courage to surmount your obstacles.
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This can be done successfully without involving fictional characters or make believe scenarios.
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What Specifically Are the "Sins" Due to Imperfection that We Commit Each Day ?
by RubaDub inas jw's we are constantly reminded that we sin each day due to imperfection.
but when bringing up the specifics, i have never gotten a good answer.. several times i have even mentioned to others of my getting up on a sunday morning, reading the daily text, studying the watchtower for the afternoon meeting, driving to the meeting (under the speed limit), answering at the meeting, (not using more than one towel in the restroom), going out in service later in the afternoon, coming home, having dinner, and then in the evening preparing for a part for the ministry school.. i didn't recall scheming in my heart about doing something bad or anything like that.. so, specifically, where does the "sin" come in?
and if what i did was sinful, how can i improve on it?
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AndDontCallMeShirley
Well, you see, Jehovah™ has such hatred toward his own human creation (made in his image, no less) that the mere act of breathing, blinking or sneezing is offensive to Him. As an outlet for all His dismal failures (the creation of human beings foremost) Jehovah™ has no recourse other than to declare everything a sin, therefore justifying whatever punishment he feels like doling out.