http://www.ctlawtribune.com/id=1202673073702/latest-sex-abuse-suits-target-jehovahs-witnesses?slreturn=20140911103232#ixzz3fqvmacjslatest sex abuse suits target jehovah's witnessesattorneys say religious doctrine barred reports of abuse.
isaac avilucea, .
the connecticut law tribuneoctober 10, 2014 | .
Thanks for posting this, Barbara.
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I found this quote interesting:
"What's it going to take for them to [turn from the two-witness rule]? Not being a Jehovah [Jehovah's Witness]. They are known for being extremely rigid. I don't see that going by the wayside any time soon."
In other words, as long as someone remains a Jehovah's Witness, Watchtower policy prevails over common sense and doing the right thing. Loyalty to WT dogma is the primary concern, not child welfare.
in my most recent talk, i got counseled for using some terms that were not prefered.
for example i said "new testament" rather than "the christian greek scriptures".
i also used the term "gospel", but even worse, i made reference to the "synoptic gospels" and the "gnostic gospel".. i guess i never thought of it before, but when i looked at the societies information on the matter they always say things like, "the so-called new testament..." or "the so-called synoptic gospels..." why with all the "so-called?".
Seldom have I heard of people dating referred to as boyfriend and girlfriend. Its always, "they are dating so and so".
I've gotten chastised for saying "dating" instead of "courting". JWs don't "date".
"Special" terminology and unique sayings are a hallmark of cults/high control groups. It makes you superior to everyone else if you know the secret words and have your very own decoder ring.
hi, had some strange things happen this week that have made me ponder what on earth is going on with the man made organisation.. 1/ while picking up some train tickets i was approached by a young man with an ipad of sorts who engaged me in a chap and then asked to show me a new website i asked what he was trying to sell or promote he assured me that he was selling nothing the website he showed me was jw.org so i quickly said so you are promoting an organisation with a brand name similar to how a christian would promote jesus and the bible he looked confused but then said yes, so i said that i thought that to be quite shamefull, he froze for a bit and didnt comment so i asked is this new symbol a trade mark of some marketting firm to which he said "no we are jehovahs witnesses" no one else was around so not sure of the "we" but anyway i said if god has given us the bible whats with a website that produces snippets out the bible with an opinion on the meaning he avoided the question and asked me what i believed in so i said my religions leeders dont let me discuss belief with anybody so i obey,listen to them and dont question he said "you have been blessed by j with a brain and freedom of thought to look and question" i said ok but i think its strange that you use a name for god thats perhaps made up by man, blindly follow and dont question a group of self appointed men as well as showing signs of idoatory to an organisation that has pushed jesus to one side, at this he suddenly he had to dash off.
2/ when out shopping i was apprehended by a group of people with a stand giving free literature and promoting the jw.org website so i had had to ask whats with this name change after all these years and are you a similar religion to the catholic church which led to a chat about how the catholic religion is false and how they wickedly have covered up sex abuse!
i didnt bite on this one but asked if birth control was banned in the jw.org religion a lady stepped forward and explained that it was cruel and not biblical to ban contreception i said i had been shown a bit in the bible that gives rise to this ban and she said they(catholic church) dont understand the bible and use it to control and miss inform people so i replied similar to how your organisation bans blood and birthdays by misinterpreting the bible i went on to say that i believe the organisation to be hypocritical,false , cult like and shamefull how it covers up sex abuse i also got in that the organisation had totally corrupted its self with its un membership and also with the sheer amount of false prophecy over its relatively short history at which the senior man at the table politely told me if i wasnt interested in the literature to be on my way and that hopefully i would mature enough to let jehovah into my heart before it was to late and that he felt sorry for me and the people i obviously associated with.
WhilepickingupsometrainticketsIwasapproachedbyayoungmanwithanIpadofsortswhoengagedmeinachapandthenaskedtoshowmeaNewwebsiteIaskedwhathewastryingtosellor promoteheassuredmethathewasellingnothingthewebsiteheshowedmewasJW.OrgsoIquicklysaidsoyouarepromotinganorganisationwithabrandnamesimilartohowaChristianwould promoteJesusandtheBiblehelookedconfusedbutthensaidyes,
YourpostwasveryconciseandreadableOutlawThankyou
when the wtbts association with the un & the osce was exposed, their own rules should have been rammed down their corrupt and lying throats!.
thank you so much for the watchtower cd rom.
you made a huge rod for your own back.
BOTR: I am not certain of all the full implications but a library card is no excuse.
There is no excuse.
If the WT will disfellowship a JW for joining the YMCA only to use the swimming pool, under the charge of "becoming part of an organization whose objective is contrary to the Bible", (WT considers the YMCA a "false religious organization"), then the lame explanation of becoming an NGO with the UN "to get a library card" is laughable at best.
when the wtbts association with the un & the osce was exposed, their own rules should have been rammed down their corrupt and lying throats!.
thank you so much for the watchtower cd rom.
you made a huge rod for your own back.
Disfellowshipping seems harsh. WT only wanted a library card
Let's not forget that WT is currently a member of the OSCE, the European counterpart of the UN. In fact, the OSCE's goals and objectives are so similar to the UN's they are considered one and the same. The OSCE is a self-described "politico-military" organization.
WT claims to hold NGO status in the OSCE (as it did with the UN) merely to advance "Kingdom interests", but, setting the political-military aspect aside, what WT participates in to accomplish their stated goal is nothing short of interfaith, yet another "sin" that WT categorically condemns.
makes a good point.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x8i192fbuq&list=uuz1w0ll081jjiycjb298pow.
Theocratic warfare is an old JW concept.
So is 1914. It doesn't mean it isn't still used to WT's advantage.
cultbgone: If you believe this is the truth and your religion is backed by jehovah god, why aren't you proud of the disfellowshipping and shunning practices?
For the same reason WT didn't embark on a worldwide publicity campaign in 2013 declaring that the GB is the Faithful and Discreet Slave.
hi, had some strange things happen this week that have made me ponder what on earth is going on with the man made organisation.. 1/ while picking up some train tickets i was approached by a young man with an ipad of sorts who engaged me in a chap and then asked to show me a new website i asked what he was trying to sell or promote he assured me that he was selling nothing the website he showed me was jw.org so i quickly said so you are promoting an organisation with a brand name similar to how a christian would promote jesus and the bible he looked confused but then said yes, so i said that i thought that to be quite shamefull, he froze for a bit and didnt comment so i asked is this new symbol a trade mark of some marketting firm to which he said "no we are jehovahs witnesses" no one else was around so not sure of the "we" but anyway i said if god has given us the bible whats with a website that produces snippets out the bible with an opinion on the meaning he avoided the question and asked me what i believed in so i said my religions leeders dont let me discuss belief with anybody so i obey,listen to them and dont question he said "you have been blessed by j with a brain and freedom of thought to look and question" i said ok but i think its strange that you use a name for god thats perhaps made up by man, blindly follow and dont question a group of self appointed men as well as showing signs of idoatory to an organisation that has pushed jesus to one side, at this he suddenly he had to dash off.
2/ when out shopping i was apprehended by a group of people with a stand giving free literature and promoting the jw.org website so i had had to ask whats with this name change after all these years and are you a similar religion to the catholic church which led to a chat about how the catholic religion is false and how they wickedly have covered up sex abuse!
i didnt bite on this one but asked if birth control was banned in the jw.org religion a lady stepped forward and explained that it was cruel and not biblical to ban contreception i said i had been shown a bit in the bible that gives rise to this ban and she said they(catholic church) dont understand the bible and use it to control and miss inform people so i replied similar to how your organisation bans blood and birthdays by misinterpreting the bible i went on to say that i believe the organisation to be hypocritical,false , cult like and shamefull how it covers up sex abuse i also got in that the organisation had totally corrupted its self with its un membership and also with the sheer amount of false prophecy over its relatively short history at which the senior man at the table politely told me if i wasnt interested in the literature to be on my way and that hopefully i would mature enough to let jehovah into my heart before it was to late and that he felt sorry for me and the people i obviously associated with.
That's the longest sentence I've ever read.
the man was moving around in the darkness of j's home with a gun.
he was certain j. and his family weren't there, but he was wrong.
when a door suddenly opened and a dark figure fumbled for the hallway light, he had only a moment to act.
To your point TD, I knew an elder years ago that so bought into WT's take on not incurring "bloodguilt" Re: self-defense, he actually said that if a man broke into his home and began raping his wife, he wouldn't do anything to stop it- because he wouldn't want to be "bloodguilty" by killing, or much less, even harming the rapist.
Or, another elder who was outspokenly anti-gun because WT is anti-gun, who said he keeps a large, heavy-duty Maglite flashlight next to his nightstand specifically for self-defense. If an intruder came into his home, he'd have no problem "beating him to death" with the flashlight. Which takes more intention? Shooting an intruder and maybe killing them? Or, beating them to death with a Maglite? The elder could not in 'good conscience' shoot someone in self-defense but could beat him to death (which at a certain point is no longer self-defense).
This is the absurdity of WT "reasoning" that gets in the way of common sense.
http://social.jw-archive.org/articles/sister-pleads-guilty-to-killing-her-baby-while-at-congregation-ou#sthash.xzojqlck.dpuf.
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nevada!.
Apog: So let's not just take the side of the defending lawyer here just because it gives us another thing to blame the religion for.
The hypocrisy is that it doesn't go the other way. When a JW does something good, like returning a large amount of cash that's been lost, JWs invariably use that as evidence that the person did this because they are a JW- the WT made them a better person.
When something bad happens, like this case, the default argument is always, 'well, people do bad things, you can't blame the religion'.
To a degree I see your point, Apog, but I also don't think it can be reasonably argued that the religion didn't at least contribute (probably to a large extent) in the decision she made.
So really, is her attorney that far off in using this argument as a defense???
http://social.jw-archive.org/articles/sister-pleads-guilty-to-killing-her-baby-while-at-congregation-ou#sthash.xzojqlck.dpuf.
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nevada!.
The friends will hear this via grapevine, & then will not speak about it or just say, she was wrong in the first place to have a baby without a hubby.
No, what they will say is that this entire story was fabricated by apostates and not a word of it is true.
