AndDontCallMeShirley

Joined

• started 19 topics
• posted 4,011 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by AndDontCallMeShirley

• 
  56

  Nov 2014 KM - a text message counts as a return visit!

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you don't know, km's are now online too.

  under the heading, "i cannot find him at home again!

  " it mentions how a text message or email is to be counted as a return visit.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Shirley: Thank you for explaining your reasoning so clearly and eloquently.

  You are welcome
• 
  56

  Nov 2014 KM - a text message counts as a return visit!

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you don't know, km's are now online too.

  under the heading, "i cannot find him at home again!

  " it mentions how a text message or email is to be counted as a return visit.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Shirley: what difference does it make to us- *the ones who already know it is a futile endeavor*if the methods are ineffective. We are not doing it. We know lives are not at stake.

  The effectiveness of the methods, or lack thereof, is not the issue. The point is, JWs are trapped in a system of man-made rules that enslave them to a schedule and lifestyle they may not necessarily agree with but abide by under compulsion/duress in order to comply with the demands of their leaders. While lives are not at stake, as you correctly pointed out, lives are being wasted. And, many here still have family and close friends in the WT Org, and it is painful to watch them waste their lives in futile endeavors.

  It makes me livid to watch my still-in family members donate money they cannot afford to donate, and spend what little time and energy they have serving WT's interests, not their own. They put health, dreams and happiness aside because they have been convinced by WT that that is what God requires them to do. That's why I care.

  It is bad enough that WT demands people's vital energy and lives...but made so much worse that the same energy and life is being spent on increasingly absurd levels of ineffective triviality and "busy work".

  what choice do they have

  You said it. When a person no longer has a choice, then they are a slave. I, for one, am not a fan of slavery. That's my answer to your query, "what difference does it make to us?"
• 
  15

  I HATE vets

  by Xanthippe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  took one of my cats to the vet two weeks ago, she gets dermatitis from flea bites and although she gats flea treatment every four weeks the skin problem flares up about every two years.

  so i asked for her usual steroid tablets which clear it up in about a week but no this young vet about 25 thought she should have a steroid injection and an antibiotic.

  didn't work and she's much worse.. went back today and another vet said can't give you the tablets because the injection is still in her system and lasts 6 weeks.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  AndDontCallMeShirley

  I don't hate Vettes but I much prefer something like a 1967 Camaro RS/SS.
• 
  443

  Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

  .

  .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Where have all the apologists gone?

  Texting for return visits or sitting 30 feet from their Devil Carts sipping a Starbucks Grande Frappuccino, no doubt

  Gone are the days of debating 607 and robust doctrinal arguements.

  NeoJW: "607? What's that? Is that how many text return visits you've done today?"

  ---------------------

  @ AlwaysBusy...it is unconscionable how some here (no names mentioned, but his initials are GC) can be so callous to such an issue. I'm with you...this Org. is depraved and a day of reckoning is coming.
• 
  16

  Russian authorities nab Jehovah’s Witnesses for dumping waste

  by objectivetruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://rapsinews.com/judicial_news/20141107/272536636.html.

  st. petersburg, november 7 (rapsi) environmental prosecutors office for st. petersburg have uncovered violations by the russian jehovahs witnesses chapter, according to the statement issued by the prosecution on friday.. the prosecutors office reports that the religious organization dumped waste in a creek that flows into the gulf of finland, in upstate st. petersburg, without any permit.. the neva-ladoga water authority confirmed that in 2013, jehovahs witnesses dumped more than 30 thousand cubic meters of waste into the creek.

  in 2014, authorities detected a rise in concentrations in ammonium lignosulphonate and fluoride, in violation of the on environmental protection federal law and water code of russian federation.. the prosecutors have filed a lawsuit against dumping waste into the creek.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Wasn't the WTS caught dumping waste by the Wallkill site?

  Yes.

  WT's polluting knows no bounds.
• 
  443

  Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

  .

  .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  AndDontCallMeShirley

  GC: The abusers issue is of no consequence.

  Unless, of course, you are that one that was raped as a child by a JW and firther victimized by the religion that defended the rapist.

  GC: The Org just has to come to terms with implementing a new guidance to turn these people to the local authorities.

  If the pedophilia is "of no consequence", then why would WT change its policies?

  Actually, for the number of existing JWs, the number of abuse cases is really minuscule

  How would you know? WT has hidden most of these cases through gag order settlements, and keeps it hushed within the Org. itself. 99% + of JWs have never heard of the Conti case or the recent case in San Diego to the tune of $13,5 million. If JWs are ignorant of the most newsworthy cases, it's reasonable to say the scope of the problem is much larger than can be imagined.

  GC, why are you here? Your Governing Body explicitly orders you not to go onto "apostate" websites, yet here you are. Why do you defend your leadership when even you don't believe what they say?
• 
  95

  Girls names

  by FeelingFree in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok so i know its not really anything to do with jwness but we are struggling with baby names and really can't think of one we both like.

  its getting a bit desperate as i'm due in about 8 weeks .. i'm getting bored of looking at the same old names on the baby names websites so any suggestions would be much appreciated (girls please).. **cash prize for the one we choose!

  ** ....... no not really lol.. .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  AndDontCallMeShirley

  anddontcallmeshirley- Vagina?? Really?! lol

  Sadly, I didn't make that one up. A friend of mine said he knew a woman with that name (she always smelled like tuna...very weird).
• 
  21

  Announcement that will "test your faith"

  by tezrichmond in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i saw this exact headline on jw-archive.org and couldn't find no other info about it.

  anyone know anything?.

  possible hoax ha ha.. .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Then why are YOU here?

  Because GC is still an active JW and staunch apologist for WT, which means he thrives on misinformation.

  GC is really a man without a country. He pisses and moans about WT ad nauseum, yet is a WT apologist; he pisses and moans about JWN (despite the GB he worships ordering him not to be here), yet actively participates in the discussions here. Hypocrite.
• 
  102

  It is official they're selling off Kingdom Halls in Britain

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i posted here a week ago some disturbing news for congregations being consolidated in britain.

  my goodness that was nothing !

  a letter was read today from bethel addressed to all congregations in britain that can only be described as the biggest news for years.the main points:.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Listener: What's the bet that those old halls will be the ones that aren't already owned by the WTBTS?

  "Old" is also the KH that happens to sit on the most prime real estate and will make the biggest profit for WT. Menlo Park, Ca. is a great example.
• 
  43

  How to Knock Nazi Elders off their high horse

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the borg has many inconsistencies, when the topic is helping humble and honest people achieve their full potential.

  consider a working man who works 40 to 60 hours a week and still manages to show up to all the meetings, participate, do all of his assigned work within the kh, but his ministry has slipped to 8 hours per month.

  this same man is working hard to move up within the ranks only to get shut down without even knowing.. .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  AndDontCallMeShirley

  the problem is the word exemplary. What the hell does that even mean in JW terms anyway??

  "exemplary" = you kiss elder butt, you get some minimal, meaningless, arbitrary number of hours in service every month, you are the lucky recipient of nepotism and/or favoritism, and you are a "yes" man.

  As Ray Franz pointed out in CoC, the most admirable qualities a person should have are, in WT Land, the least important as far as getting "privileges" and position.