Posts by AndDontCallMeShirley

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Get Out. Get Away. Free Yourself. This is a Dangerous Cult. Nobody can help you but yourself.

by Jehovanomics in

you can measure the degree of passive aggressive control the jw's have over you by the degree to which you feel guilty when you stand up for yourself.

it's a multi billion dollar real estate corporation.

it's all about the money.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Voltaire: "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."

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Do Jws even need Jesus?

by TTWSYF in

jw
friends

just thinking out loud becauseof some things my elder brother has said in the past.

how his works help ensure his future w/the great crowd on earth.. .

well, i need jesus for my salvation,but perhaps some of you do not.. just asking.

The name "Jehovah" is the linguistical fabrication of a 13th century, a.d., Catholic monk: Raymundus Martini. So, the 1st century Christains couldn't be "Jehovah's Witnesses", as WT claims, because that name didn't exist in the first century a.d.

Furthermore, the tetragrammaton (YHWH) does not appear even one time in the NT, the "Christian Greek Scriptures", so if those Christians were supposed to be proclaiming god's name, they not only missed the boat, they never made it to the pier.

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'Trusted' Jehovahs Witness raped and sexually abused girls

by cliff in

'trusted' jehovahs witness raped and sexually abused girls.

court: barry furlong arrives at bournemouth crown court.

first published tuesday 9 december 2014 in news by jane reader.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Mr Worsley stressed it was not a trial about Jehovah’s Witnesses but “a trial about a number of children within that context”.

He fails to see one is the cause of the other due to WT's policies.

To read more accurately, it should say:

"Mr Worsley stressed it [is] a trial about Jehovah’s Witnesses Watchtower but and “a trial about a number of children within that context”.

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The Faithful Slave - An Obvious Question I Haven't Heard Asked

by berrygerry in

since the big 7 have appropriated this "blessed" title for themselves, and disavowed the existence of this slave prior to 1919, an obvious question comes up.. was it not the apostate maria russell that proffered that ctr was "the slave," and was the coiner of the term "the faithful slave"?.

if the slave did not come into existence until 1919, then how was it possible that prior to 1919 that anyone knew that it existed, or would have been able to foretell that it would come into existence?.

was maria a prophetic apostate?.

AndDontCallMeShirley

" It is a serious matter to represent God and Christ in one way, then find that our understanding of the major teachings and fundamental doctrines of the Scriptures was in error, and then after that, to go back to the very doctrines that, by years of study, we had thoroughly determined to be in error. Christians cannot be vacillating—‘wishy-washy’—about such fundamental teachings. What confidence can one put in the sincerity or judgment of such persons?." ---(Watchtower, May 15, 1976, page 298)

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For once, WT got it right. I followed this advice...that's why I'm no longer a JW.

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And, let's not forget: according to WT's current doctrine, the Faithful slave is literal, the evil slave is only illustrative.

Please ignore that both are discussed in the same verse.

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WT Library

by MsTruthSeeker2014 in

does anyone have the link to dl the wt library?

i was looking for some mag from the 1900s and see that the jw org site only goes back to 2000.

AndDontCallMeShirley

The WT library cd-rom only goes back to 1950 for the W, 1970 for the A.

JW.Org only goes back ten years for a reason.

Various online sources will have the older publications...but you won't find them through WT.

Try this: http://home.tiscali.nl/t661020/wtcitaten/part1.htm

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Do Jws even need Jesus?

by TTWSYF in

jw
friends

just thinking out loud becauseof some things my elder brother has said in the past.

how his works help ensure his future w/the great crowd on earth.. .

well, i need jesus for my salvation,but perhaps some of you do not.. just asking.

AndDontCallMeShirley

I understood from my time as a JW that the FDS said Jesus died only for them as only they are Christ's brothers & the rank & file JW's are not.

The Lie:

"Falsely, however, some who professed to be Christian brothers charged that The Watch Tower had denied that Jesus is the Mediator between God and men, that it had repudiated the ransom and denied the necessity and fact of the atonement" (Proclaimers, ch.28, p.630)

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The Fact:

"Jesus Christ in heaven is the Mediator between God and the spiritual Israelites" --W 11-15-79

"Likewise, the Greater Moses, Jesus Christ, is not the Mediator between Jehovah God and all mankind. He is the Mediator between his heavenly Father, Jehovah God, and the nation of spiritual Israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members." -- Worldwide Security Under the "Prince of Peace" (1986) pp.10-11 ch.1

"So in this strict Biblical sense Jesus is the "mediator" only for anointed Christians." -- Watchtower 1979 Apr 1 p.31

"... the invitation to come to Jehovah's organization for salvation" -- Watchtower 1981 November 15 p.21

"The other sheep should never forget that their salvation depends on their active support of Christ’s anointed "brothers" still on earth."

-- W 3-15-2012, pp. 20-24

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Jehovah's Witnesses Application for Trolley Preaching Rejected by Village of Glen Ellyn, Illinois

by jwleaks in

glen ellyn won't allow jehovah's witnesses brochure rack on sidewalk.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/glen-ellyn/ct-jehovah-witness-brochures-tl-20141209-story.html.

the glen ellyn village board (usa) on monday night voted 4-2 to reject a request by a kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses north of glen ellyn to place a portable brochure rack on a public sidewalk in downtown glen ellyn for evangelistic purposes.. glen ellyn currently bars commercial signage and the placement of any kind of structure whether temporary or permanent on its public sidewalks without village board approval.

AndDontCallMeShirley

On Monday, several trustees said they felt a public sidewalk is the wrong place for an evangelistic cart.

Actually, planet Earth is the wrong place for an evangelistic cart...especially one monikered with a "JW.Org" logo.

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Do Jws even need Jesus?

by TTWSYF in

jw
friends

just thinking out loud becauseof some things my elder brother has said in the past.

how his works help ensure his future w/the great crowd on earth.. .

well, i need jesus for my salvation,but perhaps some of you do not.. just asking.

AndDontCallMeShirley

JWs: "Who's Jesus? We have the Governing Body."

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"The Friends"

by FeelingFree in

i have only come across this term very recently on jwn and in an "apostate" video i watched yesterday.

never have i heard anyone refer to jw's as "the friends" here in the uk.

is it just used in america?.

AndDontCallMeShirley

I heard this term the first time over 30 years ago in the Midwest USA.

Of course, it's the biggest misnomer of all time, because there are no true "friends" in the JW world- only very conditional aquaintances.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Application for Trolley Preaching Rejected by Village of Glen Ellyn, Illinois

by jwleaks in

glen ellyn won't allow jehovah's witnesses brochure rack on sidewalk.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/glen-ellyn/ct-jehovah-witness-brochures-tl-20141209-story.html.

the glen ellyn village board (usa) on monday night voted 4-2 to reject a request by a kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses north of glen ellyn to place a portable brochure rack on a public sidewalk in downtown glen ellyn for evangelistic purposes.. glen ellyn currently bars commercial signage and the placement of any kind of structure whether temporary or permanent on its public sidewalks without village board approval.

AndDontCallMeShirley

The draft license agreement, attached, requires submittal of the standard Certificate of Liability Insurance in advance of the placement of the brochure rack.

No doubt the Publishers operating the cart/watching the cart from afar from the nearest Starbucks, will have to purchase this insurance themselves.

When it comes to cash outlay to finance WT's mandates, suddenly WT (and its checkbook) are nowhere to be found.