Posts by AndDontCallMeShirley

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After all, JWs were RIGHT!

by abiather in

1) science and technology appeared as a savior to mankind, yet the overall result points to the opposite direction.. http://aeon.co/magazine/science/why-has-human-progress-ground-to-a-halt/.

2) john kerry warns of catastrophe if climate change is not tackled.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environment/article4295230.ece (times, saturday 13, 2014).

AndDontCallMeShirley

Science and technology have given you all gadgets of comfort, but in the process POLLUTED AIR & WATER

Huh. So WT castigates science for polluting the earth with technology and gadgets... while WT simultaneously encourages JWs to buy iPads, use JW.Org and proceeds with a massive worldwide (unnecessary) building campaign?

Isn't this a little bit like hypocritically protesting against Big Oil... but driving to the protest rally in your SUV powered by an internal combustion engine?

You and WT can posture all you want, abiathar... I ain't buyin' it.

This vindicates the core-teaching of JW that God’s Kingdom is the ONLY remedy which they have been CONSISTENTLY proclaiming from their very inception!

You mean the same kingdom WT said was going to destroy this entire world "wholesale" in the year 1914? Then in 1915? Then 1925? Then 1975? All within the generation that was 15 years-old in 1914? Then 10 years-old? Then born in 1914? Then within the generation of an 'overlapper' of someone who may have known someone who heard of someone that might have been born in 1914?

The only thing consistent about WT core teachings is their inconsistency. And your arguments here are as untenable as the arguments WT has been blundering their way through for 133 years.

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After all, JWs were RIGHT!

by abiather in

1) science and technology appeared as a savior to mankind, yet the overall result points to the opposite direction.. http://aeon.co/magazine/science/why-has-human-progress-ground-to-a-halt/.

2) john kerry warns of catastrophe if climate change is not tackled.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environment/article4295230.ece (times, saturday 13, 2014).

AndDontCallMeShirley

But their core teaching remains not only UNCHALLENGED and UNCHANGEABLE

Wrong on both counts, abiathar.

WT teachings are constantly challenged and exposed as untenable ...you may have noticed it happens here everyday.

UNCHANGEABLE

This is especially lauaghable, considering WT itself has changed at least two of its most 'core' doctrines recently: re-defining the identitiy of the faithful and discreet slave (again), and concocting an overlapping generation (this is the 9th redefinition of what "generation" means).

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After all, JWs were RIGHT!

by abiather in

1) science and technology appeared as a savior to mankind, yet the overall result points to the opposite direction.. http://aeon.co/magazine/science/why-has-human-progress-ground-to-a-halt/.

2) john kerry warns of catastrophe if climate change is not tackled.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environment/article4295230.ece (times, saturday 13, 2014).

AndDontCallMeShirley

Seriously??

1799;1874;1878;1881;1914;1915;1925;1975; generation; overlapping generation, faithful slave, etc,etc,etc...

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

Just curious: what has WT done for mankind in the past 40 years? Or ever??

JWs may have gone wrong in some dates and silly details.

Understatement of the century.

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This religion is about to be toast.

by kneehighmiah in

the governing body is preparing to take a major hit.

this recent watchtower shows it.

not the new understandings, but the article on marriage.

AndDontCallMeShirley

I read lips and speak Korean. I'm pretty sure he's saying, "This article is pure bullsh*t !!!! Did T-Mo3 write this crap?! I'm 5 years-old and can see right through this idiotic bovine residue."

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This religion is about to be toast.

by kneehighmiah in

the governing body is preparing to take a major hit.

this recent watchtower shows it.

not the new understandings, but the article on marriage.

AndDontCallMeShirley

P.31:

"Some brothers have likewise waited to ﬁnd an appropriate mate. Bill from Australia is one such brother... Bill waited for 30 years before he met a sister with whom he was compatible."

30 years?!?! WTF ! 30 YEARS?! Again I ask- WTF ? !

That's the best the all-powerful, "loving" god Jehovah could do for his friend Bill? I'm truly underwhelmed.

"compatible" = she is a JW. That's it. Nothing more.

Bill says: “I have no regrets.” He explains: “I feel blessed because we go out in the ministry together, study together, and worship together. I am happy to meet and associate with my wife’s friends because they are all fellow worshippers of Jehovah. We work on our marriage using Bible principles.”

The Lie: “I have no regrets.” Reality: Bill is now so old he doesn't know what "regrets" means.

Notice that he doesn't say he actually loves his wife and found his soulmate. Nope! His dream girl (old woman) goes to the meetings and door-to-door... that's what Billy dreamed of his entire life. He set the bar so low that disappointment was virtually impossible.

"Dear Jehovah: please find me a woman with a pulse, that's all I ask. Thank you." --Your gullible friend, Bill.

Oh, and she has friends. Wow, Bill. Awesome, dude! You found a keeper.

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This religion is about to be toast.

by kneehighmiah in

the governing body is preparing to take a major hit.

this recent watchtower shows it.

not the new understandings, but the article on marriage.

AndDontCallMeShirley

It's astounding that WT prints this kind of rubbish considering that TMo3 recently said that any JW woman considering marrying a man who is not at least a Ministerial Servant is making a bad decision. A man who is not an MS or elder is not a man.

That, coupled with the laundry list of other rules, written and unwritten, that JWs must adhere to Re: dating/marriage, and WT remains befuddled why JWs are exasperated? JWs don't marry for love... they marry for the Organization. Not a great start.

Is the WT cult going away? No. There will always be gullible people who need someone else to do their thinking for them; there will always be people that guide themselves by fantasy and childish stories rather than grown-up reality.

Is the GB losing their grip? Yes. Fortunately, the ones who see through the nonsense leave the Org, but the GB still holds absolute influence over those that stay...and the cycle of abuse perpetuates ad nauseum.

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Be honest post do all posters on this site believe the bible is 100% or has flaws?

by booker-t in

we in the psychology/sociology field have a saying "when people protest too loud usually they are overcompensating".

i did not understand that when i first started studying psychology but now i understand it completely and it is so true.

when i hear someone constantly bashing something or someone such as gay bashing or ethnic bashing or religion bashing sometimes i wonder what are they hiding.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Ironically, the Bible as it is today, was compiled and canonized by the Catholic Church, the same Catholic Church that WT says is foremost among apostate Christendom.

[edit] DD, you beat me to it. You dog you ! LOL.

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When did the Watch Tower society start posting on You tube?

by adjusted knowledge in

jw
friends

i just found videos posted by the society on you tube.

i didn't even know they had an account there.

of course they don't allow comments.

AndDontCallMeShirley

the speaker warns about all recordings. He even stated the same regarding notes. That you couldn't distribute notes.

Odd directions, considering the WT claims to be spreading a "life saving" message that must be preached before the just-around-the-corner, coming-soon-anyday-now event of Armageddon occurs.

'It's a vital message from god...but please don't talk about it'.

Uh huh.

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LET'S HELP JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES TO LOVE APOSTATES

by Terry in

simple application of logic to scripture interpretation:.

if two terms mean the same thing it should not change the meaning to exchange one word for the other.. first, jesus lays the foundation for us.

let us read.. luke 6:27-37 "but i say to you who are listening, continue to love your enemies , to do good to those hating you, to bless those cursing you, to pray for those who are insulting you.

AndDontCallMeShirley

What if every time the Watchtower was about to print the word APOSTATE, instead they printed STRAY SHEEP?

Or, simply: fellow human being.

It's best to take religious/Bible references completely out of it. That way a JW might be able to think straight.

Of course, now we've stepped way over the line into The Twilight Zone, right??

Your point is well taken, though, Terry. The constant terminology JWs are hammered with colors their world and shapes their thinking in how they view people. Simple changes would make a huge difference...but said changes run counter to the agenda of WT, Inc. WT isn't in the love and, "can't we all just get along?" business.

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LET'S HELP JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES TO LOVE APOSTATES

by Terry in

simple application of logic to scripture interpretation:.

if two terms mean the same thing it should not change the meaning to exchange one word for the other.. first, jesus lays the foundation for us.

let us read.. luke 6:27-37 "but i say to you who are listening, continue to love your enemies , to do good to those hating you, to bless those cursing you, to pray for those who are insulting you.

AndDontCallMeShirley

What do you think the chances are any JW would read it that way. . . EVER?

1. it's in the Bible, so it's unlikely a JW will actually read it.

2. the GB will never, ever tell JWs to read it that way so JWs will never, ever see it that way.

3. JWs have had this scripture available to them as long as they've existed. If they haven't seen it up to now, they won't with more time.

4.

Obstacle #1 for JWs: Continue becoming merciful

Obstacle #2 for JWs: stop judging

Obstacle #3 for JWs: stop condemning

Without these foundational tenets, what reason does a person have to be a Jehovah's Witness?

Going through life without being able to condemn and judge others would simply be: no fun. Provincialism is the last bastion of the weak...and without it JWs lose their entire identity.

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Other than that, you make a great point, Terry.