Posts by AndDontCallMeShirley

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JWs say, "They don't judge"

by skeeter1 in

what is up with jws?

lately, i've heard this line, "we don't judge .

but, doesn't everyone judge?

AndDontCallMeShirley

At this rate, they're gonna have nothin' left pretty soon...

WT is like Doritos: "Don't worry, we'll make more".

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Using New JW.ORG Merchandise to Share the Good News, t-shirts and painted JW.org toe nails!

by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker in

there are approved methods of preaching the good news about jw.org in style!.

caleb and his single mammy, tired of your child losing notes to his teacher, pin that note with a friendly, lively jw.org caleb and mommy button for a small fee!

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/356206651751072594/ with our rich hertigage of mixing organization with the skills of a saleman you knew this was bound to happen.. .

AndDontCallMeShirley

I'm still waiting for tattoos.

A "JW.Org" tramp stamp would be priceless.

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What were the calculations used to arrive at the 1874 date of Christ's return?

by Zoos in

we all know the calculations used by the wt to arrive at 1914. fall of babylon in 607 (false year), gentile times, no zero year, ta-da, 1914.. what did they use before that?

i know it wasn't russell who came up with it - he just adopted it.

i'm just curious what they had to explain away when they made the transition.. .

AndDontCallMeShirley

Russell WAS speculating, but out of a sincerity, perhaps.

Using words like "Scriptural proof", "god's dates" and "definitely" veers WAY out speculating territory.

Besides, WT has never cut anyone else a break for being wrong but sincere. In WT's view, sincerity is not an excuse. Even if CT Russell was speculating (he wasn't), WT continued the great tradition after Russell's death, and it's hardline stance nullifies any attempt it may make to excuse itself.

Historically, WT claims it was a sincere speculator only AFTER it fails yet again (1914;1925;1975); when teachings are current WT is always speaking directly for god and challenges within the ranks are squashed immediately. Genuine speculators don't squash dissent.

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Teaching Anthony Morris III names of common things.

by LogCon in

"...what it is is this spanx, this skin-tight stuff they wear.

now, are you sisters wearing this in the ministry?

i can't say that i've ever seen that.

AndDontCallMeShirley

What do you expect from a wiener who talks about "human hotdogs"?

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What were the calculations used to arrive at the 1874 date of Christ's return?

by Zoos in

we all know the calculations used by the wt to arrive at 1914. fall of babylon in 607 (false year), gentile times, no zero year, ta-da, 1914.. what did they use before that?

i know it wasn't russell who came up with it - he just adopted it.

i'm just curious what they had to explain away when they made the transition.. .

AndDontCallMeShirley

Thanks, Mac. Great references.

I noticed this one right away, which garnered a big "LOL" over my morning coffee. It also made me realize that god (if he actually existed) gets a giant "FAIL!" stamp from me. If WT is the best god has, we are all in deep s**t:

*** w73 7/1 p. 402 Praise Jehovah with His People ***

4 Consider, too, the fact that Jehovah?s organization alone, in all the earth, is directed by God?s holy spirit or active force. (Zech. 4:6) Only this organization functions for Jehovah's purpose and to his praise. To it alone God's Sacred Word, the Bible, is not a sealed book.

How very much true Christians appreciate associating with the only organization on earth that understands the deep things of God?!

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JWs say, "They don't judge"

by skeeter1 in

what is up with jws?

lately, i've heard this line, "we don't judge .

but, doesn't everyone judge?

AndDontCallMeShirley

Can you say: JUDICIAL committee?

Now, now, Terry! Surely you know that Jehovah™ makes the decision in a JC and the Elders are just passing the message along. So, technically, they are not judging. LOL.

Vidiot: Rutherford set the example; he was "The Judge",

Due to your perspicacity, Vidiot, WT will be forced to expunge yet another factoid from its already overly-expunged history.

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What were the calculations used to arrive at the 1874 date of Christ's return?

by Zoos in

we all know the calculations used by the wt to arrive at 1914. fall of babylon in 607 (false year), gentile times, no zero year, ta-da, 1914.. what did they use before that?

i know it wasn't russell who came up with it - he just adopted it.

i'm just curious what they had to explain away when they made the transition.. .

AndDontCallMeShirley

Here's some typical WT hypocrisy and finger pointing where WT attempts to shift blame as a diversion to what WT itself dogmatically promoted:

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"The overthrow of that dominion in 1798 by the French Revolution marked the beginning of the ‘time of the end’..." (Watch Tower, August 1879, p. 24 Society’s reprints). "The year 1799 marked the beginning of the ‘time of the end,’ when various events were to occur." Watch Tower, November 1, 1914, p. 5565 Society’s reprints

"1799 A. D. beginning time of the end" Watch Tower "Topical Index," 1919, p. 6542, Society’s reprints

"Twelve hundred and sixty years from A. D. 539 brings us to 1799, which is another proof that 1799 definitely marks the beginning of ‘the time of the end’." Creation by J.F. Rutherford (1927) p. 315 early editions (Later editions essentially the same, p. 294).

And, only after decades passed and WT figured no JW would remember WT's own teachings, made this statement to make the CC look bad:

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"Some Roman Catholics have claimed that Jesus Christ's thousand Year Reign ended in 1799 when French armies captured Rome and deposed the pope as its ruler, so that he was deported as a prisoner to France, where he died." (Watchtower; Sept. 1, 1989; p. 12).

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Or, how about this doozy (compared to the above quotes, Re: 1799):

"We see no reason for changing the figures - nor could we change them if we would. They are, we believe, God's dates, not ours. But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble." (Watchtower July 15, 1894, p 266; p 1677 reprints)

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"Jehovah’s Witnesses have consistently shown from the Scriptures that the year 1914 marked the beginning of this world’s time of the end and that ‘the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly men’ has drawn near." The Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1993, p. 9

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After all, JWs were RIGHT!

by abiather in

1) science and technology appeared as a savior to mankind, yet the overall result points to the opposite direction.. http://aeon.co/magazine/science/why-has-human-progress-ground-to-a-halt/.

2) john kerry warns of catastrophe if climate change is not tackled.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environment/article4295230.ece (times, saturday 13, 2014).

AndDontCallMeShirley

Of course, all of this is based on one scripture that WT completely misapplies: Revelation 11:18.

The 'ruining the earth' refers to ruining of the human condition spiritually, not a ruining of the planet through pollution (not that I believe any of it, but WT should've consulted real scholars before formulating that particlular doctrine.)

It's a fail no matter how one looks at it.

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Bill Burr on religion

by OneEyedJoe in

i watched bill burr's netflix comedy special "i'm sorry you feel that way" a couple days ago, and something reminded me of it so i thought is post it here as i think many here will enjoy it.. the whole thing is hilarious, but in one segment he did a bit on religion and how he "just let it go" one day.

he touches on the fact that tall other religions (he gives the example of scientology) seem insane to you, but yours makes perfect sense because it was put into you from an early age when you had no critical thinking.

all the while he makes no effort to force anything on the audience - everything is presented in a non-threatening "here's what i did" sort of way.. i have to give comedians some credit for my atheism - comedy is a great way to get people to challenge their beliefs while bypassing the usual defense mechanisms.

AndDontCallMeShirley

I've watched Bill's stand-up routine three times. Cracks me up. Watch the whole routine, but the part of the show OEJ is referencing starts at 22:10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1a6qjeGfT4&feature=player_detailpage

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After Six Months of Hiatus, I can tell you the Watchtower is Starting to Crumble Faster than you think!

by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker in

i took a hiatus from jwn because the wall started to collapse because i lost several people ive known almost my entire life.

these were people i thought would never die, the lies told by the watchtower is unforgivable!

there was a party i attended keeping a low profile while documenting what was said.

AndDontCallMeShirley

I love this quote from Steve Jobs. It has so many applications that highlight the destructive nature of the WT mindset:

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"Your time is limited, so don’t waste it living someone else’s life. Don’t be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people’s thinking. Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary." -- Steve Jobs