Posts by AndDontCallMeShirley

They had also tried to ask my husband to leave but I told them that wasn't happening so they said he could stay. They tried saying his presence would hinder the flow of the holy spirit.

LOL. Poor H.S. ... as ineffective as WT's god.

All because we knew the elders were covering over a guy who committed adultery and admitted it, forged a legal document... posession of an illegal firearm, domestic abuseon his wife and threatening to kill his father whom he had gotton the guns from.

Two months later two of my accusers who were related to the guy that was getting away with all this wicked stuff became elders

Just the kind of men WT is looking for. They'll make fine elders. No doubt appointed by the same holy spirit your husband was allegedly blocking. LOL.

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Many Member Just Want to Believe

by OnTheWayOut in

if you are/were an active jw, you are now here on jwn so, for whatever your reasons, you woke up to some degree- hopefully a great degree.

so what i am saying may not apply to you.. i know that if i had not already left, i would have stormed out on the day they studied "overlapping generation.

" i am quite confident i couldn't have stayed for such an obvious switcharoo just to make the end seem imminent and try to explain how wts was wrong, but not entirely wrong in the past.. but i had to wonder how that change (or others) didn't cause most jw's to walk out.

AndDontCallMeShirley

they are too invested in WTS and just have to hang on and believe. They want to believe, no matter how ridiculous the doctrine gets.

"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back." -- Carl Sagan, A Demon Haunted World

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The Judicial Committee is a Circle of Elders in a Room?

by Shanagirl in

has this ever happened to anyone who has been df'd here?

did you walk into a room with a circle of chairs for the whole body of elders?.

shana.

AndDontCallMeShirley

"Of the three JC meetings I was privileged to attend..."

This is on the same level as, "it's your privilege to scrub the KH toilets today".

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I am going to pioneer after the holidays!

by snakeface in

jw
friends

yes, you heard right.. as you know, most christian organizations publish and distribute little tracts with their gospel message.

well they also make some that expose the lies of the wt, and explain how it is a cult.

even if people are not interested in the "gospel message" in these tracts, the tracts do a good job exposing the wt as a cult.. now, those of you who are now agnostic or athiests or just non-religious, please keep reading, to understand what i plan to do.... i am expecting to receive $$ for christmas.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Also, this will show householders that there is at least one JW who woke up and left.

How many thousands or tens of thousands of JWs leave each year... and non-JWs don't care or even notice?? WT is inconsequesntial to the lives of 8 billion people on this planet.

Take a vacation with your cash.

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I am going to pioneer after the holidays!

by snakeface in

jw
friends

yes, you heard right.. as you know, most christian organizations publish and distribute little tracts with their gospel message.

well they also make some that expose the lies of the wt, and explain how it is a cult.

even if people are not interested in the "gospel message" in these tracts, the tracts do a good job exposing the wt as a cult.. now, those of you who are now agnostic or athiests or just non-religious, please keep reading, to understand what i plan to do.... i am expecting to receive $$ for christmas.

AndDontCallMeShirley

... personally go door-to-door in my former territory and "work" the very same houses as I previously did.

My first impression, as a householder, would be:

"Hmmm...he came to me as a JW fully convinced he had the truth; now he's here as an ex-JW fully convinced he's found the truth. Why should I listen?"

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Wives who complain about their husbands work schedule but refuse to get a job

by hoser in

jw
friends

i listen to one of these all time in our hall.

she brings it up constantly about how they would do this or that but he has to work that saturday.

i think she should get a job and then he could find a lower paying 9 to 5 job..

AndDontCallMeShirley

Vidiot: Clearly, I've been doing it wrong.

Me too. I wish WT's world actually existed (in this case).

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Wives who complain about their husbands work schedule but refuse to get a job

by hoser in

jw
friends

i listen to one of these all time in our hall.

she brings it up constantly about how they would do this or that but he has to work that saturday.

i think she should get a job and then he could find a lower paying 9 to 5 job..

AndDontCallMeShirley

I was not allowed to get a job because I would probably fornicate and do other unspeakable brazen acts.

It's common knowledge that it's impossible to have a full-time job and not brazenly fornicate...

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What were the calculations used to arrive at the 1874 date of Christ's return?

by Zoos in

we all know the calculations used by the wt to arrive at 1914. fall of babylon in 607 (false year), gentile times, no zero year, ta-da, 1914.. what did they use before that?

i know it wasn't russell who came up with it - he just adopted it.

i'm just curious what they had to explain away when they made the transition.. .

AndDontCallMeShirley

not going after those who say 'the time is at hand'.

Which should have spelled the demise of CT Russell and WT after 1914 came and went. But, there's one born every minute...

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Elder's School: 2015 KMS Program

by pixel in

good morning.

want to attend?.

kingdom ministry school.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Judging With Insight

Note that using insight while judging applies only to appeals and re-instatement...NOT to disfellowshipping itself.

Translation: boot 'em out quickly for whatever reason, then make the coming back or appeals part painfully arduous by using "insight".

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Be Guided by Bible Principles 25 min.

The second shortest session of the whole program...just slightly longer than the mid-morning break.