Vid: I've mentioned I'm Canadian dozens of times; even mentioned that I'm in Alberta.
Ah Ha!!! Now I know exactly who you are ! The jig is up, my friend.
the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).
before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.
first, the reason i think it should be shown:.
Vid: I've mentioned I'm Canadian dozens of times; even mentioned that I'm in Alberta.
Ah Ha!!! Now I know exactly who you are ! The jig is up, my friend.
yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
@ DorkHouse: The Trinity Travesty has been exposed, and because of our preaching and teaching, 'Hellfire' has been, too- and is taught in less and less churches.
Can a religion REALLY be considered true when it rejects the Trinity while it simultaneously harbors pedophiles? Sorry, the 'we are right because we don't believe doctrine "X" ', excuse doesn't wash !
If you say yes, it does, then I argue that the very religions you are condemning have equal claim to being right just like WT, because they can use the same excuse: 'Sure, we may be wrong for believing in the Trinity, but we don't harbor pedophiles... so god still likes us".
yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
@ DorkHouse: I have seen evidence that Christ HELPS us.
Please list all the "evidence" you have that Jesus helps you/the WT (not sure what "us" is referring to).
@ DorkHouse: The Trinity Travesty has been exposed, and because of our preaching and teaching, 'Hellfire' has been, too- and is taught in less and less churches.
WT is not the only religion that does not believe in the Trinity or Hellfire. In fact, many religions prior to WT didn't accept these teachings.
You being a JW, I'm reasonably confident in saying you probably have never read the Proclaimers book, nor do you have any clue whatsoever as to your religion's history. It is true that CT Russell and early WT did not believe in the Trinity or Hell. But guess what? For the first 60 years or so of the existence of "god's organization", WT: celebrated Christmas; celebrated birthdays; believed in the divinity of Christ, promoted numerous false prophecies, etc, etc.
Why not actually read your Proclaimers book. You'll quickly discover CTR and WT did what all the other religions you are condemning here did: he simply took a pick-and-choose approach to what his beliefs would be from the buffet of Christianity. Russell settled on what felt good to him personally, not on what was necessarily true or accurate.
@ DorkHouse: We have made God's Name known again- when Churchianity & Judaism almost wiped it out.
You've condemned all other Christian religions. But guess what? The name "Jehovah" is a grammatically impossible invention of 13th century Catholicism. "Jehovah" never was god's name; in fact, no one knows what god's name really is, as it has been lost forever. Some popular guesses have been adopted as acceptable, but the fact remains no one knows- not you, not WT.
Judaism and "Churchianity" did not "wipe out" god's name as you claim. The name disappeared due to disuse being that no first century Biblical writer thought it important enough to actually write down and preserve At least religions other than WT were honest enough to admit they don't really know what god's name is (because god didn't see fit to preserve it) and they weren't willing to settle on a fiction as a 'make due' solution.
@ DorkHouse: Jesus foretold that in the end times the good news of the KINGDOM would be preached to the world.
You mean the same Kingdom WT proclaimed as having been established in 1878??? Then when it failed they changed it to 1914??
I hate to break it to you, DH, but WT is not preaching the Kingdom of the Bible. They are preaching the marketable corporate kingdom version of WT, nothing more.
Incidentally, if you look at WT's own figures you'll easily determine barely half the world has ever been preached to by JWs, and of the half that has heard WT's message hardly anyone really knows what WT's message is. It's alleged "greatest preaching effort" ever made is a dismal failure. Evangelicals have done a far more effective job of spreading the message than JWs will ever hope to do. Not a great record for 134 years of effort.
i have updated the article at memorial partakers with the figures released for 2014. no surprises here, it has risen yet again, this time by 6% over last year, and is now 14,121.. .
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@ JWLeaks: And they have the audacity to call former members "mentally diseased".
In reality, I believe the GB's opinion is every JW is mentally diseased... except the grand 7 who sit in their ivory tower. It's not limited only to those who've left.
The GB just haven't had the chutzpah to come right out and say it directly... yet.
yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
@ DorkHouse: With OUR organization- 8 men call the shots. And look at some of the nonsense they spout- and how they set rules that help most, harm a few, and sometimes go AGAINST scripture. Yet, they have the SAME OBJECTIVE we ALL have- to honor God & Christ.
You do know one of your popes recently died and now the number is 7, right?
So, harming a few and going against scripture 'honors' God and Christ? And you wonder why many here no longer believe and/or are atheist.
8 men call the shots
Interesting comment. Traditionally, WT has always claimed Jehovah calls the shots, since it's his organization.
Are you admitting WT is nothing more than an organization run by fallible humans?
i have updated the article at memorial partakers with the figures released for 2014. no surprises here, it has risen yet again, this time by 6% over last year, and is now 14,121.. .
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All it means, according to WT's view of its own people, is that the number of JWs with mental problems is increasing:
w11 8/15 p. 22 Questions From Readers
Memorial partakers. This is the number of baptized individuals who partake of the emblems at the Memorial worldwide. Does this total represent the number of anointed ones on earth? Not necessarily. A number of factors—including past religious beliefs or even mental or emotional imbalance—might cause some to assume mistakenly that they have the heavenly calling.
@ Chas: Depends what you are selling... but maybe not if it takes 11,000 hours to sell one $45 Million private jet.
Yeah, but it makes all the difference in the world if you claim god is helping you sell jets and it's critical to sell as many jets as possible in the shortest period of time. Add to that the very real possibility there's a 67% chance the sale contract will be cancelled before delivery and it's still a loser.
i just thought we could share some of the funniest moments since its the holiday season and we are taking things easy.
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"WTFness" ( from the Unabridged Vidctionary of Modern Watchtower-isms)
Indeed.
i am proud to be a jehovah's witness in the last days, what religion has done this much to proclaim the message about the organization?
other religions are preaching about jesus, some wear the crucifixion, other's wear shirts with fishes but we wear shirts with jw.org!
no other religion has our courage!.
Now this is what I call junk food...
I guess JWs can have their website and eat it too.
i am so sick of this pretend religion that has now come to the point of showing its true colors.
the colors are white and blue.
this picture captures the true purpose of the watchtower these days.
"Millions now Living Will Never Log On"
The WT is becoming more superficial everyday. Telling people to go to a website now constitutes a ministry, and JWs can sleep soundly knowing they did their Christian duty and saved lives by faithfully wearing their "JW Org" pin while they sipped a double Latte at Starbucks on a Saturday morning.