Posts by AndDontCallMeShirley

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San Diego Convention Rules

by lambsbottom in

heard from an elder friend in so.

cal that the san diego convention has new rules this year:.

no ezups or beach umbrellas.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Are these still acceptable?

"Brother, please remove your beer hat...I can't see the Monkey's Ass on the platform".

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COBE cannot be 80 or more

by fader77 in

a new letter no longer allows an elder to be cobe if hes 80 or more.

AndDontCallMeShirley

6-5-14, addendum to previous BOE letter dated 6-1-14:

"Dear Brothers,

We inadvertantly published that brothers 80 years of age can no longer serve as the COBE.

We meant to say that brothers with an IQ over 80 can no longer serve as the COBE.

Your Brothers,

The Christian Congegation The Governing Body Says"

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International conventions - Seattle

by Lynnie in

just found out from my jw mom that the congregations located in the suburbs north of seattle.

will be renting buses to shuttle people back and forth to the international convention at husky.

stadium.

AndDontCallMeShirley

@ Lois:

WT has no problem putting JWs in harm's way, although I cannot say what they are thinking in regards to the convention locations.

I guess if next year's conventions are held in places like Fallujah, Baghdad or the Crimea, we'll have to revisit your idea.

Until then, just be 'faithful' and go to Detroit...if you get mugged, stabbed or killed, that's what "Jehovah™ willed" for you. "Listen, obey and be mugged blessed".

One thing is certain: your wallet will definitely be mugged by WT regardless of where a JW attends.

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Atlanta Int Convention 2014:The Big Party. Does this look like WT believes Armageddon is coming "soon"?

by AndDontCallMeShirley in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=potrr2qxhue.

.. if armageddon is "imminent", why is wt focused on sight-seeing, entertainment, travel, etc.

instead of preaching and saving people??.

Note how WT thinks that everything with the convention is a direct result of Jehovah's™ blessing. This, right after saying that Atlanta is the premier location for many conventions and corporate doings. Jeez, how do "worldly" groups also have conventions there, considering Jehovah™ isn't on their planning committees??

And, WT seems to think the city of Atlanta is so helpful simply because they are in love with JWs. Really? WT doesn't seem to realize this means big $$$$ in revenue for the city....Atlanta would be just as accomodating to Mormons, Hari Krishna, and even to fans of Duck Dynasty or The Kardashians (revenue is revenue, right? regardless of the source).

Finally, notice the enormous amount of time JWs/WT is devoting to entertainment- plays, concerts, sight-seeing tours, etc. Is this really the best way to spend their time, considering we allegedly are in the last moments of 'the most important life-saving work' right before Armageddon? I thought it was imminent?

When JWs take personal time for themselves for vacations, watching movies, planning a party, etc., they are criticized by WT for selfishly focusing on "valueless things" and not the ministry. But when WT does the same thing, it's now admirable and a part of god's purpose.

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Question for believers in the Bible/

by not bitter in

jw
friends

AndDontCallMeShirley

Answer:

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Atlanta Int Convention 2014:The Big Party. Does this look like WT believes Armageddon is coming "soon"?

by AndDontCallMeShirley in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=potrr2qxhue.

.. if armageddon is "imminent", why is wt focused on sight-seeing, entertainment, travel, etc.

instead of preaching and saving people??.

AndDontCallMeShirley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=POtRr2qXhuE

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If Armageddon is "imminent", why is WT focused on sight-seeing, entertainment, travel, etc. instead of preaching and saving people??

Note how many times "Governing Body" is mentioned.

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1975 end prediction

by FL_Panthers in

jw
friends

does anyone have the article written by the wt saying that the end would come in 1975?.

how did people back then come to this year?

i need this information becuase i was told, this was never literally written by the wt in any publication.. thanks.

AndDontCallMeShirley

WT has been wrong about this subject every time it has addressed it:

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"In this chapter we present the Bible evidence which indicates that six thousand years from the creation of Adam were complete with A.D. 1872; and hence that, since A.D. 1872 are chronologically entered upon the seventh thousand or the Millennium." (Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 2, p. 33, 1889)

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*** jv chap. 28 pp. 631-632 Testing and Sifting From Within ***

It was only natural that they should wonder when and how these things would occur. Did the inspired Scriptures provide any clues?

Using Bible chronology that had first been laid out by Christopher Bowen of England, they thought that 6,000 years of human history had ended in 1873,

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*** ka chap. 11 p. 187 par. 6 “Here Is the Bridegroom!” ***

According to the Bible chronology that was thereafter adopted, the six thousand years of man’s existence on the earth ended in the year 1872 but the Lord Jesus did not come at the end of those six millenniums of human existence, rather, at the start of the antitypical Jubilee in October of 1874. The year 1874 was calculated as being the end of six millenniums of sin among mankind. From this latter date mankind was understood to be in the seventh millennium.—Revelation 20:4.

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"According to this trustworthy Bible chronology six thousand years from man's creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E Six thousand years of man's existence on earth will soon be up, yea within this generation. The rein of Christ...to run parallel with the 7th millennium ..." (Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God, 1966, p. 29-30)

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Jason Cobb on the new tithing arrangement (this is good!)

by Rufus T. Firefly in

jw
friends

http://jtv-podcast.tumblr.com/post/87641202438/the-wheat-and-the-weeds-updates-on-the.

AndDontCallMeShirley

@ MF: What I found interesting was that Jason Cobb understood the basic scam but it doesn't sound like he realizes the scam started from the top

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This was Jason's error throughout the entire Menlo Park cong. scandal. I don't know if he deliberately let WT off the hook so as to avoid further legal troubles with WT or if it is what he actually believes.

What he fails to realize is, if the MP Cong. scandal was a local matter unkown to WT, why is it WT did nothing to correct it when Cobb and others exposed it? And, why did WT disfellowship Cobb and others for doing the right thing while simultaneously protecting the very elders at the center of the scandal?

The fact is, if the corruption did not come from the top down it would be handled and corrected immediately rather than allowed to remain as status quo.

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What Do Mormons Really Believe? RE: The Nov. 8, 1995 Awake Magazine

by D_Rolling_Kearney in

i am a member of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints, and i have written a heavily-documented response to the official magazine of the jehovah's witnesses, awake!, that claims to teach what we believe.

i saw an article from last year's watchtower about a guy who had barely been mormon for very long, and obviously did not know what we believe, who was given this magazine by jw's to show him "the truth.

" he claims to have proven to himself that it was true from information on the lds church's website.

AndDontCallMeShirley

The laughable thing about JWs vs. Mormons is that each declares the other to be on the wrong path and deceived, yet both are cut from exactly the same cloth.

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Australian Government publishes on official web site the current Jehovah's Witnesses "Handling of Child Abuse" confidential letter to all bodies of elders (October 1, 2012)

by jwleaks in

the current jehovah's witnesses official child abuse handling procedure letter to all bodies of elders (october 1, 2012) has been placed into public domain by the australian (victoria) government "inquiry into the handling of child abuse by religious oganisations".. official government web site link to letter:.

http://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/images/stories/committees/fcdc/inquiries/57th/child_abuse_inquiry/submissions/steven_unthank_supp_a_appendix_1.pdf.

short link:.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Is it just to make the elders feel special, or do they have something to hide

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YES and YES.