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  100 Years Ago Today: World War I Began - July, 28, 1914

  by Oubliette in

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  100 years since world war i07/28/14 07:44 am by timothy noah and johnny simon.

  "one hundred years ago today, emperor franz josef of austria-hungary declared war on serbia in retaliation for the assassination one month earlier of his heir apparent, archduke franz ferdinand, by a serbian pan-slavic nationalist.

  what might otherwise have remained a regional conflict between the dying hapsburg empire and one of its former holdings instead became, through a tangle of alliances and a global power imbalance, two world wars that began in 1914 and ended in 1945, with a 21-year intermission for the jazz age and the great depression.".

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  I thought Armageddon started in 1914?
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  Stagnant JW growth at international convention

  by kneehighmiah in

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  so at the international convention 235 were baptized.

  the attendance was 34k.

  that's resents less than 1% its about .6%.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Magnum: Also, there was the old generation teaching which made far more sense than the new one.

  Which of the 7 or 8 WT versions of "generation" are you referring to? LOL.
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  BOE 2014-07-11 Use of ministerial servants where the number of elders is limited

  by WatchTower87 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  to all bodies of elders.

  the congregation secretary should arrange for this letter to be retained in the congregation permanent file of policy letters.

  he may also wish to update the congregation copy of the index to lettersfor bodies of elders (s-22) at this time as well.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  I have a question: why is it that ministerial servants have to meet qualifications the Monkey's Asses don't have to meet?:

  "In congregations that have very few elders [Monkey's Asses], capable ministerial servants who have demonstrated good judgment and discernment may accompany a member of the Congregation Service Committee when meeting with Bible students..."

  Vidiot:

  Death by slow attrition.

  I'm almost sympathetic....almost

  I almost believe you
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  Stagnant JW growth at international convention

  by kneehighmiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so at the international convention 235 were baptized.

  the attendance was 34k.

  that's resents less than 1% its about .6%.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Notes Lugo, "No wonder they have to keep on knocking on doors." *

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  * updated for 2014:

  "No wonder they have to keep referring people to JW.Org."
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  Stagnant JW growth at international convention

  by kneehighmiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so at the international convention 235 were baptized.

  the attendance was 34k.

  that's resents less than 1% its about .6%.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Time Magazine Feb. 25, 2008

  "An even more extreme example of what might be called "masked churn" is the relatively tiny Jehovah's Witnesses, with a turnover rate of about two-thirds. That means that two-thirds of the people who told Pew they were raised Jehovah's Witnesses no longer are — yet the group attracts roughly the same number of converts. Notes Lugo, "No wonder they have to keep on knocking on doors."
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  Stagnant JW growth at international convention

  by kneehighmiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so at the international convention 235 were baptized.

  the attendance was 34k.

  that's resents less than 1% its about .6%.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  The question is...how many from the field?

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  That's the $64,000 question.

  In my 40+ years as a JW, whenever a speaker from the platform asked the cong. by a show of hands how many came in to "the Truth" from D to D witnessing, the result was always the same: most likely: 0; or, maybe one or two out of a cong. of 150 publishers. The vast majority were relatives/children of JWs.

  The fact is most who become JWs, who aren't children of JWs, learn of the religion in the same way that every other religion gets converts: they learn about it through a workmate, a person in the religion that befriends the person, or through heresay. Very few actually convert as a direct result of the public witnessing, which makes the focus on D to D work even more ridiculous.
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  Stagnant JW growth at international convention

  by kneehighmiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so at the international convention 235 were baptized.

  the attendance was 34k.

  that's resents less than 1% its about .6%.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Don't also forget people dying

  This refers to those still in, right? LOL.

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  Compare numbers from a few years ago to today. It wasn't that long ago there were 4 million JWs putting in less FS time annually than now...and baptisms were at 360,000 per year.

  Now you have 8 million JWs counting nearly 2 billion hours per year...and baptisms are 250,000 +/-. And half those are children of JWs.

  Only in WT Land could this be interpretted as growth and "progress".
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  Does anyone live by any Bible stuff?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is not meant to be a slag off the bible thread.. i had a question asked me the other day and it was: 'do you live by anything from the bible?'.

  i had to think about that one because i was force grown in the filthy, disgusting cult of the paedophile loving watchtower(r).. you know what?

  i really don't know if i just naturally am a great bloke or if any 'nice' bits in the bible influenced me......or has western culture been influenced by the bible for good and bad?.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Yes, I live by the Bible's wonderful standards:

  I treat my slaves well

  I hate anyone who doesn't serve my god

  I support genocide against all people but my own

  I sold my daughter into slavery but got a very good price

  I sacrifice an animal everyday, because god likes the smell of burning flesh

  I don't touch the skin of a pig by playing football

  I make sure all of my clothes have the correct fringe sewn on them (and I never mix two different kinds of fabric together- never!)

  I never shave the hair around my temples
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  Transfusing blood is NOT eating blood

  by Rufus T. Firefly in

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  2. friends

  watchtowers official view:.

  you also ask why one can be disfellowshipped for taking a blood transfusion but not for taking blood fractions.

  while both may affect the life of an individual, the expression "life-sustaining" in connection with blood transfusions is synonymous with the idea of taking in food for nourishment.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  The Bible required that animals killed for food had to be bled , and the blood not eaten.

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  The Law did allow an Israelite to eat the unbled meat of an animal they found already dead (this means all the blood was still in the meat). And it allowed Israelites to sell unbled meat to Gentiles.

  It goes back to the simple rule that when a life is taken the blood is poured out in acknowledgement of that life. In a blood transfusion, no donor has given their life, therefore, there's nothing to "give back" by pouring out the blood.
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  Convention visit observations

  by Gorbatchov in

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  this weekend we visited the convention.

  my findings:.

  - no jw.org marketing here at this moment.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  "The Bethel speaker told us that a new translation is not expected in our language".....No longer a Bible Society

  Compared to other religions, WT has never been a Bible society. In fact, its original name was Watch Tower Tract Society, not Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society.

  WT is just going back to its roots.