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  OMG! The world is worse than ever! This system can't last! Violence is increasing! Wait, what's that you say?

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  if you read jw literature, the world has been progressively getting "worse and worse" since 1914.. is that really the case?.

  for a more rational analysis, look here:.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Guys, guys !

  A better world doesn't sell magazines, result in more hits on JW.Org or keep people enslaved within the protection of "God's Organization".

  Please keep this good news to yourself.

  Carry on.
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  Is this why the book is grey?

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the 2014 revised edition of "what does the bible really teach?

  " uses the text of the 2013 nwt.

  i therefore assume this is the reason for the grey colour of the "bible teach" book.. examples of the adjustments appear at pages 216 and 217 of the book:.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  stuck: 50 shades of Grey?

  Or "Fifty Shades of Gay" if you're Anthony Morris ...
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  An email from a Jw "friend" to me (accusing me of apostasy) a few months back.

  by objectivetruth in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was going through old email and i came across the below email from a former acquaintance of mine who is a jw.

  when we were both jw's, we were both pretty liberal in our beliefs.

  its quite interesting how cognitive dissonance kicks in, for many & not too much for others.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  If you do what Russell did and start something that makes Jah use you as his channel than I will listen and follow what you say.

  Ironically, WT has marginalized CT Russell to the "Who's CT Russell" category and rejected virtually everything he taught, despite the claim that 'Jah was using him as his channel'.

  "makes Jah use you as his channel"

  I thought Jehovah chose Russell first (according to WT), not Russell started something that forced god to use him. I think your JW friend needs to educate himself a little better.

  Yet more silly statements to add to the long list if silly statements.
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  Watchtower buys apt complex in Fishkill, NY

  by lostinthought in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/news/local/2014/12/22/jehovahs-witnesses-buy-fishkill-rivercrest-apartments/20788311/.

  jehovah's witnesses now owns a major apartment complex in the town of fishkill.. tenants say they've been told their leases will not be renewed.. the sale of the 250-unit rivercrest luxury apartments closed dec. 3, the deed on file at the dutchess county clerk's office shows.

  while sale price is not stated, the transfer tax indicates a transaction for $57 million.. rivercrest is a modern development west of route 9d just north of beacon and was a project of avr realty, which also developed other housing and commercial spaces in that area as well as projects in eight states.. the sale deed is between rivercrest development llc, based in yonkers, and watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. as the buyer.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  "Kill" means "creek" in Dutch and "war" is a weir, a low dam, from the Old English.

  I know, Apog. I'm just having some fun.

  What is Watchtower going to do with the apartments? My guess is that they will fix them up let some of the temporary volunteers who are working at Warwick live in them a little while, then eventually sell them for a profit.

  My guess? WT will keep the apts. when all the building projects are completed and use them as a 'hotel' for JWs who visit WT. For a fee, of course. JWs pay for the bldg., then pay again to actually use it. Sound familiar?
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  Watchtower buys apt complex in Fishkill, NY

  by lostinthought in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/news/local/2014/12/22/jehovahs-witnesses-buy-fishkill-rivercrest-apartments/20788311/.

  jehovah's witnesses now owns a major apartment complex in the town of fishkill.. tenants say they've been told their leases will not be renewed.. the sale of the 250-unit rivercrest luxury apartments closed dec. 3, the deed on file at the dutchess county clerk's office shows.

  while sale price is not stated, the transfer tax indicates a transaction for $57 million.. rivercrest is a modern development west of route 9d just north of beacon and was a project of avr realty, which also developed other housing and commercial spaces in that area as well as projects in eight states.. the sale deed is between rivercrest development llc, based in yonkers, and watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. as the buyer.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Tenants say they've been told their leases will not be renewed.

  WT has been telling people this for 135 years. It's called "Armageddon".

  Has anyone noticed a trend with the properties WT is buying?

  Fishkill

  Wallkill

  Warwick
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  Why must we APPLY for everything?

  by Tech49 in

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  2. friends

  i was thinking about this today, after seeing another thread on the subject of serving in israel, of all places.

  there have been many comments on the recent thread, and the ones a little older, about how utterly ridiculous that premise is.. the bigger question is why do i have to apply?

  permission?

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Did they have to provide proof to the Convention Security that they were not yet one of God's people?

  They were the ones without the halo above their heads or the angelic glow encompassing their bodies. Obviously non-JWs.
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  An email from a Jw "friend" to me (accusing me of apostasy) a few months back.

  by objectivetruth in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was going through old email and i came across the below email from a former acquaintance of mine who is a jw.

  when we were both jw's, we were both pretty liberal in our beliefs.

  its quite interesting how cognitive dissonance kicks in, for many & not too much for others.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  JWs prefer wishful thinking over evidence.
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  Could the allowance of blood fractions be curtailing the growth of the religion?

  by Apognophos in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  so, imagine that you're just a regular joe who's not familiar with the witnesses and is looking for the answers to life, the universe, and everything.

  you hear a knock at your door.

  before long, you are studying with a jehovah's witness.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  .... it wrong for anyone to eat blood, that is, to use the blood of another creature to nourish or sustain one’s life.

  The other important factor to look at is the source of WT's argument that a transfusion constitutes the "eating" of blood. W 4-15-85, p.13, quotes WT's source:

  Frenchman Denys...of the 17th century!

  WT cannot find a single modern authority to support its view, so it does the classic WT move of finding any source from any century, no matter the level of ignorance of that century, as validation of the legitimacy of its stance.

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  To further muddy the waters of WT's policies, think about this:

  WT allows organ transplants- organs are tissue.

  Guess what? Blood is also tissue!

  http://www.siumed.edu/~dking2/intro/blood.htm

  Blood is a highly specialized, fluid tissue. Blood is traditionally classified as a specialized form of connective tissue
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  How do you overcome this JW excuse?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during one of those meetings that took place before my jc, one of the elders, who was a good friend of mine back then and used to come up with a few outlandish personal views about some teachings, attempted to counter one of my arguments like this:.

  eden - "well, if the truth doesn't change, why is it that what we teach as 'truth' has changed over the years (several examples given)?

  how can we dogmatically claim at any given moment that we have 'the truth' if our teachings keep changing?".

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Nothing changes in JW Land. Here's what the Proclaimers book says about the 1925 "Millions Now Living Will Never Die" campaign along with the 100% failure of all WT predicted would occur in that year:

  "Though mistaken, they eagerly shared it with others." (Proclaimers, chap. 28, p.623)

  Translation: as long as JWs are 'eager' about sharing falsehoods coming from god, neither He nor they have any problem with it.

  89 years later JWs still subscribe to the same nonsense.
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  Building 500 new kingdom halls?

  by Coded Logic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the wtbts has to know they aren't actually going to see their numbers significantly jump anytime soon/ever right?

  are they planning on cutting the rbc down to 1/10th the work force so they can actually slow down their kh projects instead of increasing them?

  or do they think their little website scheme is actually going to bring in more people?.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  It's brilliant, actually.

  Create a false need (500 KHs plus more everyday), pare the LDC down to bare-minimum numbers, all the while non-critically thinking JWs continue to donate money for KHs that will never be built.

  All with zero financial transparency from WT.