Wow. You dug up some interesting "counsel" Blondie. I think I'll print these articles out, bring them to their house and make sure they are keeping contact with their grandchildren. I'll share these with my mother-in-law as well just in case we do DA. Absolutely no reason, Biblically, or more importantly (gag), organizationally, to shun one's grandchildren.
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Grandchildren pay for the sins of their parents.
by Bonsai inmy wife's mother just related to us an interview she heard during the recent three day convention that she just had to share with us.
a brother and his wife have, for over 20 years, shunned their daughter because she ran off and eloped with a worldly guy.
while openly sobbing, he related how difficult it has been to shun his daughter and avoid unnecessary contact with her and her family.
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Grandchildren pay for the sins of their parents.
by Bonsai inmy wife's mother just related to us an interview she heard during the recent three day convention that she just had to share with us.
a brother and his wife have, for over 20 years, shunned their daughter because she ran off and eloped with a worldly guy.
while openly sobbing, he related how difficult it has been to shun his daughter and avoid unnecessary contact with her and her family.
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These types of interviews must be taking place at assemblies all across the planet. Sigh.
When I was little, both my parents were disfellowshipped and dirt poor. Many "overlooked" my parents' sins and showed kindness and mercy to my siblings and I. If it hadn't been for those kind people, I don't think my mother would have returned to the religion. It just makes no sense whatsoever what these people are doing to themselves and their families - all in the name of "love" and "loyalty to the loving god".
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Grandchildren pay for the sins of their parents.
by Bonsai inmy wife's mother just related to us an interview she heard during the recent three day convention that she just had to share with us.
a brother and his wife have, for over 20 years, shunned their daughter because she ran off and eloped with a worldly guy.
while openly sobbing, he related how difficult it has been to shun his daughter and avoid unnecessary contact with her and her family.
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My wife's mother just related to us an interview she heard during the recent three day convention that she just had to share with us. A brother and his wife have, for over 20 years, shunned their daughter because she ran off and eloped with a worldly guy. While openly sobbing, he related how difficult it has been to shun his daughter and avoid unnecessary contact with her and her family. He said knowing that he has been making Jehovah's heart rejoice has given him the strength and peace of mind to avoid unnecessary contact with her. This strength has allowed him to return to the elder's ranks. He was applauded by the audience and praised by the speaker for his loyalty.
My mother-in-law told us that if we ever DA or get ourselves DF'd (we are currently inactive and we've shared a bit of TTATT with her) she will cut off all contact with us and our children.
I was for a time very close to this elder and his wife. I knew that they were secretly keeping in touch with their daughter and her family. Then this hot shot C.O. comes along and grills them on the dangers of having a relationship with the daughters children. He said that if the grandparents foster a relationship with the children, then the daughter will feel no need to repent and come back to Jehovah. From then on this couple and my mother in law as well, cut off ALL contact with their disfellowshipped children and their family.
It makes me so angry that the children must be punished, too. Has anyone else heard of this practice of shunning a df'd/da'd person's children as well? It's just so not fair to the children who lose their relationship with their grandparents.
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Another case of information control!
by username ini decided to have a look at jwtalk to see if there might be any news on the australian royal commission investigation into child abuse.
there was a message posted regarding the news.
another case of jws not being able to handle bad news against the mother ship!.
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What a surprise. Not. I'm sure somebody chastised whoever put it up with something like:
"Now friends, we don't want to post apostate driven lies and accusations on the board. Instead we should strive to consider things that are upbuilding and faith strengthening. In Phillipians 4:8 we are reminded to..." Yada yada yada.
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Basic Bible and Religious Vocabulary the Watchtower Never Teaches
by CalebInFloroda inwhen i began formal study of religion and biblical analysis it was like peeling off layer after layer of dark matter, sticky and putrid that had stuck over my eyes and ears and mouth.
i learned that under the watchtower one only builds a widening gap between yourself and the world of biblical academia and scholars.
i used to think i knew a lot because i learned to quote a few scholars or lexicons as a witness.
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I couldn't agree more. I like you Caleb. You give so much deep thought to your posts. Toda raba. -
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Sorry..FASCINATING LETT (take 2)
by Diogenesister inhttp://chrisfugue.tumblr.com/ weirdly fascinating lett take 2 (sorry for 1st error)
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Ouch. Woe is anyone who gets on your bad side Cattails. I'm sure he was just trying to be funny. Maybe he had a little too much whiskey? It was over the top, though. -
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Sorry..FASCINATING LETT (take 2)
by Diogenesister inhttp://chrisfugue.tumblr.com/ weirdly fascinating lett take 2 (sorry for 1st error)
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i needed that laugh! The guy (Lett) gives me the creeps. Always has and always will. I mean the way the guy gesticulates... I can totally understand why Brokeback imagined what he did. -
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Cossacks attack, throw stones at Jehovahs Witnesses in RC while local police watched
by oppostate in07/23/2015russiacossacks attack, throw stones at jehovah's witnessesby nina achmatova.
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/cossacks-attack,-throw-stones-at-jehovahs-witnesses-34845.html.
jehovah's witnesses were meeting in congress on 10-12 july in krymsk, krasnodar region.
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It is to be regretted that the Cossacks used violence. It only enhances JW's position of being persecuted for their faith. I hope no one got hurt. Religious battles can never be won with violence. That being said, I can absolutely understand the anger fomented by JW's "incitement to social isolation." -
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How strange that God's organisation needs tob eg for money
by Half banana ini would say that if god or jehovah or any other named or nameless god needs money then he/she/it is not much of a god.
as a poor jw pioneer i scraped by as a way of life serving a god i could not know, see or sense in any way but i swallowed the biblical dogma and recalled that the birds of the air neither toiled nor sowed but were provided for.. so for goodness sake...why is the jw org so concerned with keeping, promoting or downright snatching as much money as they can from the sheep?.
is it a sign that jehovah has disinherited them?
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If I give you something for free, how much will you value it? On the other hand, If I make you work for it, pay for it, invest all your time, energy and play money into it, how easy will it be for you to throw it away then? It's just smart business really. They keep you invested so deeply that it is nearly impossible for those invested to walk away. I'm sure lots of people want to jump ship. The problem is they no longer know how to swim. -
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Basic Bible and Religious Vocabulary the Watchtower Never Teaches
by CalebInFloroda inwhen i began formal study of religion and biblical analysis it was like peeling off layer after layer of dark matter, sticky and putrid that had stuck over my eyes and ears and mouth.
i learned that under the watchtower one only builds a widening gap between yourself and the world of biblical academia and scholars.
i used to think i knew a lot because i learned to quote a few scholars or lexicons as a witness.
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It is a nice alternative, and I think the Jews go about their relationship with god with the right attitude. If the bible teaches us anything it's that nothing comes easy. God helps those who help themselves and all that. Thanks for the advice.