here is video someone put out that goes deep into c t russell's associated involvement with the freemasons.. there is no question that he drew out a good portion from this organization in creating some of his theological ideas.. being that it was j rutherford that helped to place a pyramid monument at his grave site indicates he could have been associated with the freemasons himself to a certain extent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpqfxdvo-54.
a cross and crown laid upon a cross pattee inscribed with "in hoc signo vinces" resting upon downward pointing swords in saltire is often used to represent the knights templar.
I haven't met a witness yet who gives a damn or is perturbed about Watchtower's past. Their stock response to connections with Freemasons is that the organization had to undergo a lot of cleansing and refinement over the years.
Modern witnesses are so apathetic to their past that if you show them a 1995 magazine they'll tell you that it's "old light" and not applicable anymore.
what better time of the year (than hogmanay) to encourage lurkers to examine black & white examples of org teachings which are false, and for them to rebelliously examine what is presented as "truth?
" (km september 2007 - question box) .
here are some previous examples for those who have yet to read them: .
not all are jw's here, think about the time you could get.
i know you are checking.
don't be shy, no one will ever know.
Ok. I'll take a swing. its the truth because... it is! It has the ring of truth and so I accept it. The JW's have been wrong on many a thing ,but so what! They are imperfect! Other religions are wrong on many things, but that is just an example of false prophets. The JW organization is humble and always apologizes for their mistakes - just not to men. They are god's channel of communication and only accountable to Jehovah. I don't care what you say because I want to live forever on a paradise earth and any of you that don't want that can die when Jehovah will righteously destroy billions of BAD people at armageddon.
if you believe humans evolved, and were not created, why would having a hymen help, especially as no other mammal has one?
if you believe humans were created by {a} god, or intelligent beings with advanced technology, what was the reason for a hymen?
i'm interested to hear your thoughts on this unusual subject, not many people talk about..
What's a hymen? Is that something you sing to?
i don't know if i can put my musings clearly into words , but i' ll try to be coherant !
on a couple of other threads lately folk have said that they have no wish to disenchant jws who are happy in the org .
those who have no personal problems and are content to stay in , thinking that it is good way to live and the nearest thing to the truth .
1: where the "f" are you, since there are no signs of your existence?.
2: why did you "create" life forms that by default hate to follow what your rules.. 3:.
from what i read in the bible, why are you such a petulant, vengeful, bi-polar nut who seems to only look for flesh and spirit to kiss you enormous godly ass?.
1. Why do we often die at an age when we have finally started to figure ourselves out and the world around us?
2. Where the **** have you and your homeboys been for the last 2,000+ years?
3. Why are you so racist only exposing yourself through the Jews and then the predominantly western nations?
Bonus Question: Why did you create so many living organisms whose sole function is to kill us and other living organisms?
the emotions from this are surreal:.
(kudos for the kid to record it).
https://soundcloud.com/throwawayjw1914_2/abuse.
let me start with a disclaimer: i am in no way minimizing the horrific crimes done to children by pedophiles.
i'm not downplaying the number of lives lost due to the blood issue, or hearts broken because of shunning.
i do not want to discount the feelings of those who have come to the end of their lives with expectations of paradise postponed.. but to me the biggest atrocity committed by this awful cult is raising children from a small age to believe that soon god will kill billions of people.
for a long time, i've been moving into a place of utmost hope and faith.
universal reconciliation.
as a converted jw - i began my conversion with the joy that there is a hope for something we all would love - a world where each of us sees our fellow kind as a true brother.. i don't think that's an unhealthy way to live.. but - i'm living with the effects of corruptive thinking from a 'sect' - a divisive sect and judgemental sect that has hurt my sense of self.. it's terribly painful to have completely believed one thing, and then completely believe something else.... well that's how it feels to me.. i've read of some here who were jws for years, then became devout born agains for years and now are confirmed atheists.. wow.. how do you cope with the frivolous nature of your 'beliefs' - beliefs that were 'truths' for you in their own time.. i'm struggling - anyone else?.
anybody take up coloring?
i got lost ocean by johanna basford and i got another coloring book mandalas and more.
i just use crayola colored pencils and some gel pens and thin tipped markers.
