Bonsai
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Hello, this is my first post
by noralee inhello, this is my first post, i would like to introduce myself and say thank you to every one on this forum, you have been a lifeline to me these last few years.. i had been a jw for 30 years when i walked away a few years ago disgusted by the treatment victims of child abuse, domestic abuse and rape receive from the wtbts.. at first i thought it was a local problem, elders personal opinions, the way they handled the situations, imperfect men etc., until i checked out jehovahs witnesses and child abuse/domestic abuse online.
that's when i realized they had the same modus operandi worldwide.
that led me here, tbuo this forum, and then to crisis of conscience, jw facts, watchtower documents, jw survey, old watchtower literature and cd s, reading a couple of steve hassans books, and more recently exiting the jw cult.. the feelings of shock, betrayal, anger at the wtbts, angry with myself for being so gullible, depression, reflection, loneliness, have taken their toll.
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Bonsai
Welcome to the forum! It's unbelievable how many lurkers are joining up here to be heard! -
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Umbertoecho here.
by umbertoecho inhello people.. i'm tired and a bit sick at the moment but i can't let anyone think that this is going to go away.... i am able to tell you a few things in order to prevent any confusion in the minds of those who are thinking that nothing will come of this arc;that nothing will effect the wtbts in america and other places.. i have been there and given my testimony.
helen milroy and her assistants were there along with another group of people who are there to lend assistance if you crack up at any time during or after the hearing.
i did not crack up but can see how this happens.. security is tight and anonymity is sacred to them as they want to protect all who come forward.
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Bonsai
Thanks for the update. Wishing you peace of mind and good health! -
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What Was The Silliest "Offense" That You Were Counseled For?
by minimus inwhen i was a teenager, i was told by an elder that because i smiled a lot and was known for my good sense of humor, that i should come across as "more serious".
so before i was appointed a ms, while in my late teens, i transformed myself into a much more "serious" brother.. were you ever told that you needed to work on something that you knew was stoopid?.
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Bonsai
When I was a kid I used to catch a variety of creepy crawlies in the KH parking lot. I would stuff them in my pocket and then release them during the meeting. I would giggle uncontrollably as the insect or worm crawled away much to the dismay of others in the audience (I think I preferred frogs because they were hard to catch and could move quickly under the rows of chairs). Moths were the best though because they could provide an aerial assault throughout the WHOLE meeting! Needless to say the elders didn't like it and gave me a stern talking to (counsel). My mother didn't like it either as she often displayed her displeasure by applying a wooden paddle to my buttocks when we got home. I felt it was all fair and fun at the time. It backfired though when people blamed me for the creepy crawlies that got in on their own! -
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How many of you actually KNOW the bible OR God???
by Mark Zyche insince jws are sooooooo terrible and full of lies.
what the heck do you think about fat santa, and and days later the celebration of janus?.
since you seem to be so good at looking at the "lies of the watchtower" what do you people think of your lives now, religiously speaking?
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Bonsai
Here's a nice verse from Proverbs 10:19 for you to chew on Mark:
New Living Translation
"Too much talk leads to sin. Be sensible and keep your mouth shut". -
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How many of you actually KNOW the bible OR God???
by Mark Zyche insince jws are sooooooo terrible and full of lies.
what the heck do you think about fat santa, and and days later the celebration of janus?.
since you seem to be so good at looking at the "lies of the watchtower" what do you people think of your lives now, religiously speaking?
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Bonsai
Mark, you didn't respond to my last post in Simple Minds thread, so I hardly feel it necessary to make a rebuttal to your latest, freshest spout of gibberish. I have better things to do with my time than circle jerk with you. Have a pleasant day/night! -
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How many of you actually KNOW the bible OR God???
by Mark Zyche insince jws are sooooooo terrible and full of lies.
what the heck do you think about fat santa, and and days later the celebration of janus?.
since you seem to be so good at looking at the "lies of the watchtower" what do you people think of your lives now, religiously speaking?
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Bonsai
Why don't you put YOUR money where YOUR mouth is and post YOUR personal story? You're superior in every way, so blow us away with YOUR TRUTHS and proof that not only does god exists but YOU have the true knowledge that can stand against scrutiny and intellectual honesty. I'm waiting. -
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How many of you actually KNOW the bible OR God???
by Mark Zyche insince jws are sooooooo terrible and full of lies.
what the heck do you think about fat santa, and and days later the celebration of janus?.
since you seem to be so good at looking at the "lies of the watchtower" what do you people think of your lives now, religiously speaking?
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Bonsai
Jesus could read the tea leaves. He and others knew that it was only a matter of time before the Romans would crush the Jewish rebellion that was taking shape over time. The last days were meant for Jews that lived 2,000 years ago. -
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How many of you actually KNOW the bible OR God???
by Mark Zyche insince jws are sooooooo terrible and full of lies.
what the heck do you think about fat santa, and and days later the celebration of janus?.
since you seem to be so good at looking at the "lies of the watchtower" what do you people think of your lives now, religiously speaking?
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Bonsai
Ooh Ooh Ah Ah! Me HUNGRY Ape! Me go find BANANA. Me is scared of ANGRY Mark! He call me MORON and IDIOT. I sad so much... -
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How many of you actually KNOW the bible OR God???
by Mark Zyche insince jws are sooooooo terrible and full of lies.
what the heck do you think about fat santa, and and days later the celebration of janus?.
since you seem to be so good at looking at the "lies of the watchtower" what do you people think of your lives now, religiously speaking?
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Bonsai
I can see how someone like you would thrive and prosper in an organization filled with arrogant, elitist, delusional social misfits. Thank you for your barrage of posts. You are helping lurkers to see just what kind of people they are around and want to get away from. Please carry on! -
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My First post
by Simple Minds ini have been lurking on this site for 3 years and this is my fist post.
i would like to thank everyone for helping me wake up.
i was baptized at 24, married at 25, ms for 18 years mentally in for 24 years but started to wake up 3 years ago doing research to give public talks, and the actions of arrogant and narcissistic brothers and sisters did not help.
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Bonsai
Really enjoyed reading your heartfelt letter. So many of us have been exactly where you are now. I thought about writing a letter too, but I didn't want them to later use it against me. I went to two elders houses and dealt with them one by one. Basically I told them verbally the same things that you wrote in your letter. I focused on the emotional, mental anxiety and distress that going to service/meetings was causing me. I told them I lost my faith in God and then I told them to leave me the hell alone and didn't want to have contact with them or any other elders again unless I initiated it.
So far it has worked wonders! They stay away from me for the most part( except for occasionally slipping the latest mags in my mailbox when I'm not home). I'd tell them verbally how you feel. I'd make demands that they stay away from you, and I'd stay away from topics that will ping their apostadar. Good luck!