Posts by Bonsai

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Introduction - Any Believers?

by Believer in

i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

You're right Rebel, JW's and some ex JW's don't make much sense. I don't make sense to even myself half the time. My anger rises up when I think about this conditional god. If it exists and I ponder the possibility (as theists would have me do), I get extremely pissed off considering the horrible suffering, pain and death NOT CAUSED BY HUMANS around me. I guess I'm morally superior to "believers" which is why I can't believe such nonsense without going into righteous indignation mode.

I find in interacting with many theists they blame the horrific things of this world on anything but god. I bring up flesh eating amoebas - you blame it on the state officials for not testing the water. Well, did they allow the amoeba to exist in the first place?! Did they design this ugly killer?! No, that would be the work of your designer my dear. He gets all the credit whether you accept it or not. Bodies of water, more often than not, flow into other bodies of water. A heavy rainfall might push stagnant water (by way of run off) into another bigger pond. Previously tested water might suddenly have amoebas crop up. Don't cop out and blame men here.

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Introduction - Any Believers?

by Believer in

i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

Bonsai

I just read an article on CNN of a poor kid who got killed by a brain eating amoeba just because he decided to go swimming. They say lakes and rivers/ponds are teaming with these Amoebas in the southern states. What kind of sick ass god would create such horrible microbes? People who defend god make me sick. There is no word to describe how dumb you people are for defending the idea that god is love and just. I'd love to give you a glass of that amoeba filled water and then you can go meet your loving god and give him a one-fingered salute for me!

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How will BREXIT affect Watchtower's interpretation of Daniel's prophecies?

by truthseeker in

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now that the uk has voted to leave the eu i wonder how this will impact watchtower's thinking about the end times prophecies in daniel and revelation?.

will trump win the presidency, and if so, will he and whoever is in charge of the uk form a new anglo-american power?

what about the ten kings ruling in the time of the end?.

Bonsai

It weakens Europe which strengthens Russia and China. Nato is in decline while Russia and China flex there muscles more and more everyday

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Born Twice - Die Once .... Born Once - Die Twice

by Perry in

jesus taught that we must die unto ourselves, and allow the holy spirit to take up residence within us.

some people get saved by simply inviting jesus into their hearts, to be the lord of their life.

this serves as a countering force within the born-again christian to counterbalance the will of the flesh, which is still unsaved in this life and destined for destruction in imitation of our lord himself.. attempting to live the christian life without having this spirit within you is a waste of time at the minimum, and dangerous on the downside.

Bonsai

It is amazes me how popular Jesus is considering all the blood that has been spilled in his name. And consider this: not one word he has spoken, not one word he has promised has ever come true. In fact, never has there been so much hype over a man who has been dead for thousands of years and has posthumously done nothing! No kingdom on earth, no healing, no controlling the weather and natural disasters, no bringing back the dead, no cups of water turned to wine. Just a whole lot of.....................nothing.

I think Elmo is ready to overtake Jesus in relevance.

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UPDATE: My existential crisis comes to a close

by Freeandclear in

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friends

in case you read my other thread regarding my existential crisis and how it was making my life miserable and left me feeling hopeless, purposeless and joyless i though i'd share what's recently happened to me and my way of thinking and have i've for the time being resolved my existential crisis.

i write every day in a journal.

i've been doing this for years.

Bonsai

Sounds like your in a hurry to deaden your existential crisis by forcing yourself to believe in this god of yours. I kind of embrace my existential crisis. I'm in no hurry to force any resolution in my beliefs, but am quite eager to slowly digest the evidence around me. After I left WatchtowerLand I went through a period where I hated god for awhile. Then I started to read the NT and developed a yearning for Jesus in my life. That lasted only for about a month. To make a long story short, a bunch of terrible stuff happened and I realized there is no higher being that gives a diarrhea squirt about us. Realizing that was quite a relief actually. When you figure out how to justify disease,cancer, brain eating amoebas, horrific natural disasters etc, etc, with a caring god, please let me know.

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Born Twice - Die Once .... Born Once - Die Twice

by Perry in

jesus taught that we must die unto ourselves, and allow the holy spirit to take up residence within us.

some people get saved by simply inviting jesus into their hearts, to be the lord of their life.

this serves as a countering force within the born-again christian to counterbalance the will of the flesh, which is still unsaved in this life and destined for destruction in imitation of our lord himself.. attempting to live the christian life without having this spirit within you is a waste of time at the minimum, and dangerous on the downside.

Bonsai

What Simon says!

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Do you still believe in the concept of absolute truth?

by JW_Rogue in

jws very much believe that there is an absolute truth and of course, they are the only ones who have it lol.

how about now though do you still believe that absolute truths exist?

or is everything subjective?

Bonsai

I dont need absolute truth. I think it's very rare to find absolute truth about anything. That being said, we can easily find what is generally true if we put forth the effort. I need overwhelming evidence and I base my beliefs off that. Those who want absolute truth usually end up being absolutely brainwashed into an absolutist cult. You should take the large body of data at your disposal and make a rational decision without sentiment or emotion.

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I've been found out!

by pale.emperor in

well, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.

someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.

i just feel sad for my daughter.

Bonsai

We are pale emperors! This is Sparta!

I'm actually kind of jealous. Being outed can be like finally giving in and throwing up when you need to. After you get it out of your system you feel a whole helluvah lot better. I kinda secretly wish those MF GB ass lickers will come to my house and serve me my summons. Then I can continue the fine tradition of putting my JC on Youtube!

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Introduction - Any Believers?

by Believer in

i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

Bonsai

Ariana Grande could just be the goddess that unites all theists and atheists! Lohan and Kardashian just don't quite have that divine spark in my humble opinion.

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slimboyfat joins the Mormons!

by slimboyfat in

i know that some people on the board have experience of being mormons, so i would be interested in your feedback.

at church this afternoon it was an uncanny experience.

in the past i've read a lot about mormons, so i thought i was prepared in general for what it would be like.

Bonsai

SBF, Do it! Join them! Maybe you can find a hot girlfriend at the church! Desperate times call for desperate measures. Other than your raging hormones, I can't think of a rational reason why an exJW zombie would seek to re-zombify himself in a similar cult. Your mind really is a cabinet of curiosities.