this particular bowl of soup has been bubbling for some time now, with various posturing and toing and froing.
looking at the media and the subsequent comments from israel regarding iran, it looks clear that something is going to happen soon, very soon..... with iran having the ears of both china and russia, israel having the us and of course we (uk) as the states poodle on the other side.
i wonder if this could be the beginning of the end?.
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Due to recent developments in Syria and Obama re: Use of chemical weapons on civilians.
Very tricky situation here. Syria / iran / Russia / China = big headache for Obama at the moment.
U.S said chemical weapons would be red line. Considering Syria is giving the world the finger, why would it change anything for them, regardless of what the west says.
satan and nvl recommended that i start this thread.
i'm not sure anyone will have interest.
but one of the things that proves to me that the bible is accurate is the prophecies that were written before the fullfillment, in detal.
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was watching a history channel program last night (yeah, i'm a history channel geek!
) and was introduced for the first time in my life to the apocryphal books of the bible?!?!?!?!?
omg....fascinating.
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aawa is here!!
(the association of anti-watchtower activists)an invitation to a new effort- aawawhy when i logged onto aawa did it go to facebook ?in regards to aawaaawa - every generation needs a new revolution - thomas jeffersonnotice how the introduction of the aawa has brought out the loonies lately?will aawa become another cult?
Ooooooooooooooh VERY INTERESTING
Wayne Dyer. American self-help author and motivatinal speaker.
Teacher of God and Jesus, very spiritual man here.
Oh dear,he's got a bit of criticism going against him. ... his teachings have been characterised as superficial platitudes that lack rigour and have limitedpractical or intellectual value.
Had a suit filed against him for .... PLAGIARISM for nicking 200 lines form someone else's work.
Married 3 times - not living with his last wife but not divorced.
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COMMON SENSE
Sound and prudent judgement based on a simple perception of the situation and facts.
The basic level of practical knowledge and judgement that we all need to help us live in a reasonable and safe way.
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Psycho babble B S
Idiotic nonsense
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Common sense
The ability to live ones life without psycho babble bs
if the book of enoch (elaborates and gives mention to 6 more archangels) suddenly became part of the bible due to solid evidence, how would this effect the shakey jw doctrine of michael the archangel as being jesus?
there are six other archangels mentioned in this book; could it be possible, if included in the jw bible, that one of the other archangels could be jesus?
would they excuse it somehow and simply stick with their implicit understanding of jesus=michael?.
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I believe there is a lot of missing information that organised religion has kept from us for their own ends, to make it easier to control the masses.
meletivivlon.com - interesting and enlightening theory on jesus and the signs.. wars, earthquakes, food shortages.. what if jesus meant the very opposite ?
jesus said - look out that nobody misleads you.
( jesus warning us as a safegaurd for us not to be mislead about exactly when the time would come ) .
I always saw it as being two-fold. And I learnt that as a JW.
I'm realising how much JW's who gave so many years to Bible 'study' actually know very little about it. Even myself. I think that is a big part of the problem. People either do not understnad what they are reading/researching/studying.
Or
They really don't want to. Which is ok, people don't have to.
SUPERSESSIONISM
It signifies one thing being replaced or supplanted by anothr.
application of a modern term to older news.
Both christian and jewish theologians have identified different types of supersessionism in Christian reading of the Bible.
Jewish theologin and Rabbinic scholar David Novak suggests there are
3 options.
1. The new covenant is an extension of the old covenant
2. The new covenant is in addition to the old covenant.
3. the new covenant is a replacemnet for the old covenant.
these 3 views are neither mutually exclusive, nor logically dependant, and it is possible to hold all or any one with or without the others.
Signs of the last days.
If you actually research each sign, their meaning, you will come to realise that it's actually telling us about 'SOCIETY' how society and people would be in that time, just as in the days of Noah.
It doesn't mean descending into degredation and violence ( I think ).
SPIRITUALITY
The use of the term has changed throughout the ages. In modern times it is often seperated from religion and connotes a blend of humanistic psychology with mystical and esoteric traditions and eastern religions aimed at
Personal well being and
Personal development.
The traditional meaning of spirituality is a process of re-formation. the re-formation aims to recover the original shape of man, in the image of God. to accomplish this, the re-formation is oriented at a mould.
Which represents the original shape. ( organised religion - is a forgery of man. It's not true to The Bible this is what Jesus was/is teaching us)
E.g
1 Tim 1;19
For men shall be lovers of themselves.
it shall be one of the characteristics of those times that men shall be eminently selfish, ( evidently under the garb of religion )
Selfish
The selfishness that is condemned, is the regard to our own interests which interferes with the rights aand comforts of others. Which makes self the central and leading object of living and which tramples on all that would interfere with that.
As such, it is a base, and hateful, and narrow passion; but it has been so common in the world that no one can doubt the correctness of the prophecy of the apostle that it would exist '' in the last times ''
Indicates a decline of religion ?
Religion makes us grateful to every benefactor - to God and man. ( but false religion is the opposite, the things condemned)
Spirituality.
1. Ancient religious meaning.
2.Modern societal meaning.
The disciples didn't understand, just as Daniel didn't understand what he was writing, and John. they were not supposed to understand all of it. They were supposed to record and preserve the teachings for the benefit of man.
They had different language, different meanings, different culture. DIFFERENT SOCIETY. Look how much has changed in the last 100 yrs.
Revelation Armageddon
The battle is actually the forces of evil coming against God himself.
this war has actually been going on for centuries, but it is the CULMINATION of it all. people are so busy focusing on bashing God, they do not focus on his adversary the Devil.
author tom magstadt phd.
who has written among other works- 'an empire if you can keep it' has been chronicling american trends for decades.. 'angry white guys: the roots of reactionary america' explores a specific period in american history, 1960-1980, the defeat of richard nixon to the election of ronald reagan.
he takes as a contrast the cities of nagasaki and hiroshima, which were destroyed by nuclear bombs, and now thrive a industiral centers to cities like detroit which are on the verge of bankruptcy and asks- why.. the era of ike eisenhower seems tame and agreeable (if one ignors the racial subjugation) and seen through the author's eyes as one where democrats and republicans got along.
Terry - excellent comment there.
I'm not an American so the poilitics I won't understand.
I love the piece you wrote there about core values etc ..... I think if you take that last section, it would make a great post.
regards
lost
hello my brothers in ttatt.
my name es juan, im from mexico, im catholic and my wife is a jehovah witness, expelled, of course.. therefore, she still believes in the organization, and she said that they were fine with her expulsion, cause she deserve it, cause our marriage with me.
any help, or someone with a similar experience will be good for me.
Welcome. After the storm comes the sun .
There are many good people here who will help you.
Tell your wife the WT is the house of the Devil in disguise.
She has had a lucky escape. ( Not anti-God, some of us still believe in God, which is also why we left )
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aawa is here!!
(the association of anti-watchtower activists)an invitation to a new effort- aawawhy when i logged onto aawa did it go to facebook ?in regards to aawaaawa - every generation needs a new revolution - thomas jeffersonnotice how the introduction of the aawa has brought out the loonies lately?will aawa become another cult?
Las Malvinas
I did make a relevent comment about his book way back at the start of all this.
Because i was asking questions I upset someone near and dear to him, and that person PM'd me.
Of course back then I was in the sympathy/let's fix this mode.
Also; it makes me wonder why there are some people making a huge fuss and attacking anyone that highlights the 'failings' involved with this Company/Business.
Like they say about 'the troof' it shold be able to stand up to scrutiny without a problem if there is nothing to hide.
'' One doth protest too much '' ..... no smoke without fire.
Like I said, non-profit is a mis-nomer. As is Charity status, WT is a classic example.
Subterfuge
Deceit used in order to acheive one's goal
A statement or action resorted to in order to deceive.
Evasion - ruse - trick - dodge - artifice.
uncensored discussions and information for anyone interested in the advocates for awareness of watchtower abuses or 'aawa' http://aawa.co/ (previously known as "the association of anti-watchtower activists http://jwactivists.org/) and how it's handled and responded to privacy issues and put people at risk:.
aawa is here!!
(the association of anti-watchtower activists)an invitation to a new effort- aawawhy when i logged onto aawa did it go to facebook ?in regards to aawaaawa - every generation needs a new revolution - thomas jeffersonnotice how the introduction of the aawa has brought out the loonies lately?will aawa become another cult?
I suggest you re-ead their eventful journey.
make of it what you will.
Signed by the ''Fake'' Pesident.
