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  My letter to the "Glorious Ones."...

  by Justice-One in

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  i thought you guys might get a hoot out of this letter that i just mailed..... dear elders (or should i call you glorious ones?).

  you can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can never fool all the people all the time.

  and you certainly do not have me fooled anymore.

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  unbeliever

  Let the witch hunt commence. How will you keep a straight face when the local needs talk is given?
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  How Many Refused To Meet With The Elders When Told They Wanted To Talk?

  by minimus in

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  have you ever just not dealt with the elders if they told you they wanted to talk to you?

  you know, did ya just "blow them off"?

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  unbeliever

  Those stupid elders were always trying to get something on me. I honestly think there was one elder in particular really had it in for me. He was always strongly encouraging me to get baptized but at the same time always told me how spiritually weak I was. I think he wanted me to get baptized so he could df me. It drove him crazy that he never could get to me because I was not baptized. I did not give a shit if I got my "privileges" taken away and he knew it. The older I got the more defiant I became. Around 15 I refused to meet with them at all. I had no qualms about telling them to f**k off especially that one particular elder. My mom went running to him when she found out I read COC. I refused to even acknowledge him. To this day I am considered to be an apostate by witnesses even though I was never baptized. On the other hand many will look the other way (my mother for instance) and associate with me because I was never baptized.
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  Would you bail your JW family out of a financial bind?

  by unbeliever in

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  i am so upset with my mother.

  she took a huge mortgage out on her house which was completely paid for.

  her elder husband wanted to expand his business.

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  unbeliever

  FHN,

  Joint custody is presumed to be in the best interest of the child in the county where I live. He would get it even if I contested it. The burden would be on me to prove why joint custody would not be in our sons best interest. I have no reason. I want him to help me raise this child. He is moving his life to be in another country so he can be there for our son. He has as much say when it comes to raising our son as I do. If there comes a time when we no longer get along then that is what mediation and the courts are for.
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  How does a person tell between their thoughts and if God is communicating?

  by The Dragon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i asked my jw mom today...."how do you know if your thoughts are your or god communicating to you?.

  the official jw explanation she refered me to is....."you just know"...... .

  would anyone risk their lives, obey, and slave for someone because "they just know"?.

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  unbeliever

  One of my favorite sayings is if you talk to god you are praying. If god talks to you you have schizophrenia.
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  Would you bail your JW family out of a financial bind?

  by unbeliever in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am so upset with my mother.

  she took a huge mortgage out on her house which was completely paid for.

  her elder husband wanted to expand his business.

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  unbeliever

  Hi guys thanks for the feedback. Bailing our mom out won't be a financial burden if we do it together. Both of us are financially stable. My brother was talking to his lawyer and he said he wanted to see my moms and her husbands credit report and see if mom has helped her worthless husband out with anything else. She says that is the only thing but the lawyer wants to make extra sure. He also advised my brother to get the companies books to see if they have been cooked in anyway and possible tax consequences for mom. I don't think the company is in her name. We will have to wait until the lawyer is done with this investigation to see what mess moms husband has made. We are going to pay Novembers payment. This is going to take sometime before we can get the big picture so to speak.

  It gets even better from what my brother tells me. There is still equity in the house which is a very good thing but moms husband made the suggestion that the house be put in all 4 of our names. I was absolutely speechless. He told him to go f**k himself and to get a job. He says he is going to fly down there and see what all is going on. We all live in different states. I wish I could go with him but I am 8 months pregnant and cannot travel. My brother asked mom if her husband has even started to look for a stable job and no he has not. He told her that the stepkids needed to go and look for jobs as well. He was not going to support them. I told him he should just have them thrown out of the house all together and we decided encourage mom to leave her husband who is obviously a loser and a user. We will even pay for the divorce. I hope he did cook the books in some way. If he did we can notify the IRS and maybe even get him thrown into jail and him and his good for nothing kids out of our lives. If he is legit then my brother and I were talking about exposing him to his elder friends and getting him removed. He needs to pay for using our mom in this way. I know elders who have gotten removed for less. He cannot support his family and had to rely on his apostate stepchildren to do it. That should look really good.

  Sass,

  The baby is doing very good. I am due November 17th. I hope he comes soon. I am getting really tired of being pregnant. We have picked out a name.... Dylan Rhys (prounced Reece). I am not crazy about the middle name but his dad really wanted him to be named that. The spelling is kind of cool though. I have decided to try and make it work with the baby's father. I am not going to marry him or move to the UK but we have gotten a lot closer and are practically living together when he is here in the US. His goal is to live here in the US 2/3 of the time after the baby is born. He still has to spend time in the UK because of his business but since he is the owner he can decide where to run it from. I have no problem with him taking the baby back to the UK for visits (as long as he comes back). I might even join him on a few of those visits. So all in all I think we have been able to work everything out which is a relief to me. Even though we are together to protect both ourselves he has agreed to sign a parenting plan. We will share joint legal custody, and as long as he resides in Nevada he will have 50% placement should we breakup. I am so relieved all that is out of the way now.
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  Would you bail your JW family out of a financial bind?

  by unbeliever in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am so upset with my mother.

  she took a huge mortgage out on her house which was completely paid for.

  her elder husband wanted to expand his business.

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  unbeliever

  The worst thing that could happen is that she could could lose the house and end up renting some dump. The only reason she has the house in the first place is that she got it in a divorce settlement from my dad. She could sell the house but the market is not as happening as it use to be. It could take a while. By the time it was sold she would have already lost it. We thought about taking over the payments until it could be sold but the house has semintal value to us. We will get the house in our names. That way they can't take out a loan against it ever again and mom will always have a place to live.
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  Would you bail your JW family out of a financial bind?

  by unbeliever in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am so upset with my mother.

  she took a huge mortgage out on her house which was completely paid for.

  her elder husband wanted to expand his business.

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  unbeliever

  My brother and I planned not to charge mom rent after the bail out. We chose to think of it as investing in her future. lol

  That is a good idea to make the freeloaders pay rent. Maybe I will tell her to kick the stepkids out of house, make her good for nothing husband get a stable job to pay off his debts or pay rent. I will talk it over with my brother.
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  Would you bail your JW family out of a financial bind?

  by unbeliever in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am so upset with my mother.

  she took a huge mortgage out on her house which was completely paid for.

  her elder husband wanted to expand his business.

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  unbeliever

  My brother is speaking with his lawyer about our best option. One way or another that house will be in our names. There is no way we are going to shell out thousands of dollars and let them to do this again. We do not expect mom to repay us. They have a lot of other debt or should I say the bastard has debt that needs to be paid off. One of the reasons they cannot pay of the mortgage. I am still shaking my head how they got approval for a loan in the first place with his debt. Our goal is to keep mom out of bankruptcy and her house out of foreclosure.
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  Would you bail your JW family out of a financial bind?

  by unbeliever in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am so upset with my mother.

  she took a huge mortgage out on her house which was completely paid for.

  her elder husband wanted to expand his business.

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  unbeliever

  I am so upset with my mother. She took a huge mortgage out on her house which was completely paid for. Her elder husband wanted to expand his business. The business is making no money at all. I was so pissed I did not get all the details but her and her worthless elder husband cannot afford the mortgage. My brother and I are so furious that she invested her security in some company that was not even making money in the first place. That bastard husband of hers I could just throttle him. So now it is up to me and my brother to save her or should I say them. My brother and I can afford to bail them out but damn this is killing me. By helping mom we are helping him and his good for nothing children who only work parttime and pioneer. I think they are totally using her. Before we bail her out we are going to have to put some safeguards in place so this does not happen again. I am so mad I could just spit. The more I think about it the more I think we are crazy for bailing her out of this bind but she will lose her beautiful house. Are my brother and I crazy for bailing her out?

  You know the funny thing is she has to come to her worldly apostate children for help. Her loving spiritual family are all so sympathetic but its only words. I don't seem them opening up their pocket book to help. I don't see the bastards children going and looking for fulltime jobs to help out. I don't see the bastard looking for regular employment. When I go back home January I am going to have it out with that son of a bitch. How dare he do this. I told mom she should have consulted with us before doing this. I know it looks like I am putting this all on my stepfather. I know my mom has some responsibility in this but I feel she was totally taken advantage of. She is in love with that peice of shit and knows nothing about business. The problem is neither does her good for nothing husband. I am done rambling. Thanks for letting me vent.
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  Elders forced to make an apology

  by KAYTEE in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it all started with a kingdom ministry sheet directive, suggesting that good readers to be used to read the watchtower on the sunday.

  the elders, in their wisdom, took off 10 brothers.

  i reacted to this because the km said good readers not the best readers.

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  unbeliever

  I think it's pitifull that women, who might be excellent readers, are not allowed this "priviledge".

  JW women are only worthy of cleaning the toilet stool.