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  PLEASE SOMEONE DRINK

  by Bob_NC in

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  2. friends

  it's not too late to get this request out there.

  please please, if you can muster the courage to be different, would you drink the wine and eat the bread tonight?

  then come back here and let us know how it went over.

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  Bob_NC

  Hmm...schrodinger's Judas. Dang. I'll have to Google that. Maybe you mean the famous painting?
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  PLEASE SOMEONE DRINK

  by Bob_NC in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's not too late to get this request out there.

  please please, if you can muster the courage to be different, would you drink the wine and eat the bread tonight?

  then come back here and let us know how it went over.

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  Bob_NC

  Gives you a headache? Yeah, that's what Judas whispered into Jesus' ear. Then he cut out early.
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  PLEASE SOMEONE DRINK

  by Bob_NC in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's not too late to get this request out there.

  please please, if you can muster the courage to be different, would you drink the wine and eat the bread tonight?

  then come back here and let us know how it went over.

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  Bob_NC

  It's not too late to get this request out there. Please please, if you can muster the courage to be different, would you drink the wine and eat the bread tonight? Then come back here and let us know how it went over. Could you?
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  If you tried to get your doctrinal or historical questions answered by an elder in your cong...

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what was the result?

  i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.

  this is important.

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  Bob_NC

  I was likely considered the best read, most knowledgeable, elder in our congregation, so there was no one to ask questions of. When I stepped down I told my best friend elder that I would be happy to talk about it all in detail with him privately if he wanted to know. At first he said no, that he didn't need to hear the details.

  He changed his mind a few weeks later and said that he wanted to hear what my concerns were about. I gave him a written list of about 8 or 10 things. He asked if the list was "it", "is this what it's all about?" I said yes, that's the main things. We agreed to meet the next weekend to talk it all out. The week went by and I called him to firm up plans for a time over the weekend. He said that he wasn't able and that maybe we could in a week or so. I called him two weeks later and asked about getting together to talk over my list of concerns. Once again he wasn't able. So I dropped it and figured he would call when he was ready. That was 13 years ago. By the way, he was PO and a long time personal friend.
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  The World is going to end...

  by The Quiet One in

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  ..one day, as will our lives.

  any day could be the last day of our existence... with that in mind, how would you want to spend your final hours, if you knew that your life was going to end tomorrow?

  what would you like to say on that last day, and to whom?.

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  Apognophos, I was most interested in your comment about not having partiality and not being attached to anyone. I wonder how many people live the same. Maybe me sort of. Do you care to expound on what you mean?
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  TTATT Billboards?

  by Emery in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  has anyone ever thought about paying for a billboard close to either an assembly hall or a kingdom hall during memorial season?

  for instance i would probably pay for a billboard for a week or 2 displaying jwfacts.com on the highway or a nearby road that witnesses travel on heavily.

  has anyone ever tried something like this?.

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  Bob_NC

  In the early 90s, maybe late 80s, there was a TTATT type billboard a few miles from our assembly hall in Salisbury, NC on I-85. It said something like What about 1914? or The Truth about 1914. Something like that. I was a believer back then and ignored the apostate sign. LOL for real now.

  Anyone else see that billboard on I-85 near Salisbury, NC?
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  Feddy Franz Gives Us A Talk On Many Wrong Expectations And Understandings Of The Watchtower Corporation

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think freddy in this talk shows how delusional he is and was.

  to know all this stuff and still feel that the organization has the truth gives truth a new meaning.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmkdwk5svxm.

  may your faith be strengthed in god's earthly organization right up to the final end!.

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  The voice is unmistakeable. I would recognize it anywhere. Strange thing, I used to tape his talks at conventions and play them at home, listening for any glimmers of new light in things not quite said. Now, he sounds like a total loon that spent too many hours cooped up in his room making up stuff.

  And yes, ADMITS that it was all wrong in the past. But somehow, it comes out to still be "the truth." What lunacy!!
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  Could the JWs sway you back...?

  by new22day in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  op based on mr. freeze's topic - could attending the meetings/studying again sway any of you back to the org.

  hearing the propaganda over and over again is pretty powerful i'm sure.

  (i'm a non-jw, non-christian (no offense), stubborn as a bull and even i had moments of pause based on some of the doctrine (lasted 30 seconds) but i never had family/friends at stake or a background in this.

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  I was a publsher at age 10, got baptised at 11. I would call that pretty well indoctrinated at a young age.

  I will never go back. Never. It is ridiculous to even consider it.
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  Why do they assume they were anointed?

  by Sheep2slaughter in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am well aware that this thread could diverge into a discussion of the legitimacy of the watchtowers view of heavenly class and earthly class and what not.

  ... but that's not the thrust of my question.

  i just replied to a thread about going to memorial and started thinking how after jesus started out no one talked about actually doing it after the initial time.

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  Bob_NC

  Let's suppose for the sake of conversation that CT and the Rutherford are correct and that there is a first-fruit "class" of 144,000 that go (went already) to heaven. Let's start the count with the first 12, then the 120, then the 500 and then all the congreagtions that sprang up due to the Apostle Paul and so forth. How long do you think it would take to get to 144,000 Christians? 10 years? 20 years? Hundreds of thousands died for their faith before the 1200s!

  Where does CT and Rutherford come into the picture? Johnny-come-latelys for sure. Late by hundreds of years. They weren't even close in being among the first 144,000 Christians, not even the first 500,000.

  Bob in NC
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  I just had a thought that made me feel so much better about this fade...

  by sosoconfused in

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  2. friends

  this is not monumental... i am sure all of you think it all the time.. but as a 3rd gen born-in ex-elder ex-pioneer ex-bethelite i spent so much time in this relion believing that for some reason that god, who loves all humans and created all things only wanted a few people to get knowledge of him - and this small group in america was his choice.. .

  now as i said i am sure 99% of you probably came to that realization before and it is common sense, but the very fact that as a grown man i never really thought about this for more than 15 seconds.

  the whole idea is just ridiculous and freaking stupid.

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  Bob_NC

  I recently read Steven Hassan's, Combating Cult Mind Control. It convinced me that I used to be under mind control, just as any active JW is. For me the freedom came once I was mentally able to see "God" apart from the organition and no longer call it "His" organization.