was it real fruit they ate or does the fruit represent something else?.
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Adding to the mystery of whether the fruit was literal, I present Genesis 3:22.
In this verse we find that God has almost been outdone and is on edge about what Adam and Eve might do next. They have already become like God [these are God's words] just as the serpent had said. So God is concerned that they might next eat from the other tree, the tree of life, and live forever. God cannot have this to be the outcome. So they are banished from the garden.
Yeah, that sounds like a real event.
so another wonderful tract campaign will take place in november.
cities and towns will be inundated by a cheap bifold about the dead .. but the dubs are warned--if there is a "no trespassing sign" on a property enter at your own risk.
so says the letter from mother/gb that was read this week at the hall.
The WT is getting better lawyers all the time. Yep, back in the day we were to ignore any sign and any neighborhood petition against us coming into a neighborhood. Now it's roll out the literature carts in a public place.
1. jehovah's witnesses have a clergy.. 2. that clergy consists of 8 men in brooklyn, n.y.. 3. those 8 men decide what every witness must believe in.. 4. any witnesses who openly disagrees with any of the teachings, faces expulsion & shunning by every fellow witness - relatives included.. welcome to the spiritual paradise!.
Elders are indeed the local clergy in every respect. They preach sermons, weddings, funerals and decide who is in and who is out. They take instruction from Brooklyn and the GB just like Catholic priests take instruction from Vatican City and Cardinals.
so what is your story?
who did you leave behind?.
we got some this in a previous thread, but i am always interested in hearing more about you all.. .
You have more power over your JW inlaws than you might know. JWs are sort of scared of the non-JW family members. Scared in the sense that they want to bring you into the truth and therefore feel an obligation to show you the best side of truth and let you see just how wonderful it all is.
The will be tip-toey around you, like the brother inlaw was when he was telling that your wife couldn't come. He was scared to death of how that sounded.
SO! Use this to your advantage where you see the opportunity.
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i guess the conversation was meanless, they are probably lost cases anyway.... .
They didn't offer you a magazine or tract? The usual cop out is to say that this tract answers those very questions, and hand you a tract and leave.
I do fear that you unsettled them a bit. Thinking outside the paragraphs is hard work.
did you feel that everyone in the world was out to get jehovah's people?.
Oh heck yeah! We thought that the world hated us. That they just want to persecute us and throw us into prison. That they were scheming up ways to do away with Jehovah's Witnesses and the only true religion.
Guess what I found out upon leaving? Ain't nobody even thinking about our sorry behinds! HAHAHAHA. Ain't nobody hating or scheming up anything on us. Man oh man, did I ever fall for that "they hate you" business.
i just got in from my daughters homecoming(she is a cheerleader and these guys make a huge deal out of this stuff).
they play 3 football games of various age groups.
it starts at 8 in the morning and just ended at 1:30. i just got in the house literally 5 minutes ago and i had to share.
I am a worldly guy now so I will say this. The sister in the dark dress and stiletto heels? Oh yeah. Oh yeah about her.
http://www.svhelden.info/witchtower/2013/10/1969-the-generation-that-will-not-pass-away/.
1969 the generation that will not pass awayas recorded at luke 21:24, jesus said: jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled.
jerusalem had been the seat of rulership of the line of kings from the house of king david, who sat on jehovahs throne as representatives of god himself.
Love it, processor. This reasoning is as good as, and more entertaining than, anything FF ever wrote. Maybe because I am of thus identified generation. By the way, I was baptized in 1969. I was Awake! [tm] to all the world events at that time. Isn't this just wonderful?
ones that have themes that come uncomfortabllly close to the cult dynamic.. i already got him to watch the obsolete man on twilight zone.
he sauggested watching some old tz again tonight so i wioll pick where is everybody, and escape clause.. i have heard oters say the movie truman show was a good movie as is the matrix ( though i detest violence).
any more suggestions for my personal handy dandy list?.
I second The Truman Show movie. I could not believe the parallels when I watched it. It's a rather silly movie, but the plot is just JWdom Watchtowerdom. It has the elders and sheperding calls and WT headquarters too.
when you're part of a lovely big group of people who all seem to be happy in their beliefs, it's easier to quell your own doubts.
if i was the only person left in the congregation who still went on the door to door work, because every body else had stopped going , having said out loud what most think, ''it's a waste of time'', how long do you think before i too would cease going door to door?.
i know from my own perspective that having lots of fellow witnesses around me, steered me into making life changing decisions.
I hope that a coordinated stopping is possible. It would send scare and shock waves through the org. I believe that the steady trickle out is having an effect already, but a big work stoppage would bring the inner workings to a halt.
Let's do it! I did already.
