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  Do some x witnesses shock you despite being one?

  by Seraphim23 in

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  12 years ago

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  Bugbear 12 years ago

  Beeing an Atheist, does not mean that you lack of moral, ethics, or consience. In fact it could be the other way around. If you still believe that a Good should give you a higher etics, higher moral, it depends on what that good tells you. If you listen to JHWH and what he demands you to think, with all slaughter, murder killing of animals, war against enemies .a.s.f.

  In my Atheistic world, my conserne, is the suffering of the living creatures. How can I help them? How can I contribute to make the world a better world. Is that a shocking philosofy?

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  JWs Most Feared Bible Verse

  by JCISGOD98 in

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  12 years ago

  the jehovah witnesses most feared bible verse.

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  Bugbear 12 years ago

  I have red the Bible several times, both with JW,s and on my own. In fact 20 years ago i was un elder in a JW congregation. But reading the Bible more and more, made me very confused. There was so much violence, killing, human catastrophy, and it all came from a very demanding good. Tha Bible itself contains very much what other scriptures such as the hindu Veda verses, The Gilgamesh Epos and even the Koran.

  Everytime you try to induce some "holiness" in any of these scriptures, saying that they are the "word of Good" you are in trouble. The texts themself shows their human background. They are often written by strong leaders that wrote them mainly to "frighten" their people, to obey their interpretations of the texts in order to make the people obeydient taxpyers, worriers a.s.f. If the people do not accept the leaders interpretation, they threth them with hell (catolic) or total destruction in harmageddon...(JW,s) Other punishments are mentioned in other scriptures. It looks like the Kings, the presidents, and other forms of leaders must use some old scriptures to stay in control.

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  I kind of envy Christians

  by stillin in

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  12 years ago

  "faith is not a possession of all people.

  " that's what the scripture says.

  i guess i'm one of those people.

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  Bugbear 12 years ago

  Painted toe nail

  "I am more at peace now, than I was when being an active JW",

  Youre quite right. Beeing "a beliver" amongs JW:s must be hell. All those absolutely rediq. ideas that the GB has served their belivers makes your life to a tradgedy. Families are broken, friends are shunning you, new rules that you have to obay just just to keep you within. I can see all those conflicts very close to myselft, but I am still unable to release parts of my family from this "spider net" that keeps em trapped

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  I kind of envy Christians

  by stillin in

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  12 years ago

  "faith is not a possession of all people.

  " that's what the scripture says.

  i guess i'm one of those people.

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  Bugbear 12 years ago

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  I kind of envy Christians

  by stillin in

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  12 years ago

  "faith is not a possession of all people.

  " that's what the scripture says.

  i guess i'm one of those people.

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  Bugbear 12 years ago

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  I kind of envy Christians

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  12 years ago

  "faith is not a possession of all people.

  " that's what the scripture says.

  i guess i'm one of those people.

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  Bugbear 12 years ago

  Stillin!

  you quote from the bible " Faith is not a possession of all people." Doesn´t the bible also say faith is a free gift? Why havent all people got that free gift? Why have so many other people different kind of faith? Is faith just a sort of "trusting in a God", that will appear and fix everything soon? There is a few questions that is worth while thinking of. But unfortunately My Good keep silent. I cannot even fell a trace of his existance. Am I dsf from him? If so what kind of a father is that? He places me on the planet earth, and let me experience horrible thing, without even wispering any clue lead to understand what humans are going through. Is it the same "test" that Job got to know?

  The questions are numerous, the answers are few

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  Ripping a person’s faith away, a heavy responsibility?

  by Seraphim23 in

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  12 years ago

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  Bugbear 12 years ago

  Seraphim 23

  Like your comments and subject!? If a person lose their very base for living, you must have something to replace it with, before they are crashing! Therefore never ever argue on a personal level, just argue about thoughts, ideas, from their own conscience. If they cannot see the trouble their ideas has for humanity, about shunning people, about homosexuals, about blood transfusions a.s.f. there is no idea, continuing argument. Remember the little boy in the Anderson saga “The new clothes for the King”. He only told other people what he actually saw. And all the grown adults must agree with him.

  Arguments must be based on one’s own thoughts. Something you really can see for yourselves. If the persons have any conscience by his/her own, he/she will gradually change their mind, and sooner or later they understand how wrong a former viewpoint was. I have passed that process during 20 years and I am still not Shure, that my present Atheistic , will be the idea that I will have when I dies.

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  After the cult how many reject faith in anything?

  by Seraphim23 in

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  12 years ago

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  Bugbear 12 years ago

  Here you have another atheistic beliver. For even Atheism is just a´ belive. I was a JW for over 20 years. Even an elder.

  during these 20 years I remember concentration in pushing away all "odd" questions that my congr. and GB never spoke about. Then I decided to find out what was real, and what other thinkers already had thought. I signed in for University studies for over 3 years. Subject History of Ideeas and Science, Philosify, and Archoeolog. From my last year in University I was turned in to clean clear atheist, even though one of my professors also was serving as a catholic priest. I often wundred why such an educated men, turn into religion again? His answer was that Religion and science has nothing to do with one another. But just the searching for Good shows that the human brain is dedicated to find security, knowledge, stability and some/any answer that satisfy our hunger for knowledge.

  Perhaps you could start with reading Karen Armstrong "The battle for Good". The book goes through many fundamentalistic believs during a 1000 years. (Karen was a catholic nun for over 10 years and is now a professor in Theology at Oxford.) Her ideas can show you very much about how faith does much harm.

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  There is no doubt that Adam wasn't the first man. How do believers get around that small fact?

  by jam in

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  12 years ago

  using bible in determing the date of the creation of adam .

  anyone in their right mind believe this to be true in today age.. don,t you think this nullify the whole bible?

  the very first book.

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  Bugbear 12 years ago

  Hi Yan Byblian!

  I am sorry to say that I think I have to correct you on one point you say quote:

  According to your logic, if you are against god, you are an atheist...

  But the fact is that atheist in general is not AGAINST GOOD...

  They just dont belive in his/hers existence. It is diffic.to to be AGAINST someone you dont even belive exist. Some atheist would prefer that Good

  existed, but since He/she is obvoiusly is absent (deists) it is more likely that he doesn´t exist.

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  Where do you consider the best place to live in the world

  by His Excellency in

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  12 years ago

  for those of you who have travelled the world over, which country or city will you consider the place to live in the world.

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  Bugbear 12 years ago

  You are quite right. If our prime minister should confess that he is a pentacostal or mormon or muslim he would have to resign immidiately becouse of the pressure from the public opinion. Religion are similar to superstition!!?

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