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  A problem for believers

  by Bugbear in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a problem for believers!.

  a majority of the world’s population acknowledge that they believe in a superior god or in their creator.

  they also claim that they have got this special understanding and knowledge of his will and his law.

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  Bugbear

  Thanks David for commenting on my humble philosophical thoughts…

  Don’t the Jewish claim that Israel is their by God “given land”`?
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  A problem for believers

  by Bugbear in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a problem for believers!.

  a majority of the world’s population acknowledge that they believe in a superior god or in their creator.

  they also claim that they have got this special understanding and knowledge of his will and his law.

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  A problem for believers!

  A majority of the world’s population acknowledge that they believe in a superior God or in their creator. They also claim that they have got this special understanding and knowledge of his will and his law. None of these religious people can however proof that their God actual exists. Or no one of them can actually disproof the existence of the others God. So everyone with a religion claims that either Jehovah, or Elohim, or Allah, or Vishnu or Zeus or Oden or Thor or…….. is the real creator or the superior God whose law must be obeyed. This due to the fact that they know “it´s God’s law or will”.. This will boil down to every individual church leader, every pastor or publisher, or mullah, or individual person. So if I claim that my God is Oden, and say obey Oden because I know him and his words, and he will destroy you if you don´t …..I can in no way say that my thoughts are wiser, more intelligent or better than your thoughts…

  The problem is universal….. almost every religion has people, missionaries, priest’s, publishers, popes, bishops that claim that their interpretation of Gods will is the only that their imaginary God is accepting… How stupid to believe that only you have the wisdom of God….!
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  Pseudo history in Watchtower today 😂

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  gorby went to the kh for family reasons today.. and landed right away middle in a pseudo history watchtower article.

  just that aspect of the jw belief he is so sensative about.. so 1918 and 1919 are changed with one mark of a pencil.

  the argument of change was in the past the argument of the doctrine.

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  NikL

  His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it

  Sounds like a perfect description of D Trump

  
  
  
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  I am a Living Time Machine

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  which world is this?_________________when the doctor pulled my screaming body out of mom all those 7 decades ago, i landed in a post-wwii world.it was--compared to today's world--an alien planet.. the world i live in today has nothing in common with the world in which i grew up.. there were no cell phones back then--there were black telephones with a dial-tone and an operator who placed your call.

  everywhere you found telephone booths!

  a call was a nickle.where did all those telephone booths go?i dunno.where did my whole world go?i dunno.. tv sets were huge boxes with tubes and small screens.

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  Terry

  Wonderful to remember all this. I have teardrop in my left eye. But I win over you….I was born 1946…!!! Although I have only 6 children. I managed to keep all of them out of the cult. Wife still in but we can accept each other, being married for 42 years, It is hard to broke the bonds. But I hope she will understand TTATT, before I leave the arena….
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  If "the Truth" is the truth, why are witnesses so scared of research?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is an often asked question i know, but it perplexes me.. if witnesses are so convinced that they have "the truth", why is the act of researching information from external sources so taboo?

  didn't the bible itself tell people to "use their powers of reason" and also praised ones like the boreans for researching things they were told??.

  seriously, if there is no doubt about the organization being "god's channel" on earth, and it alone having the "truth", surely researching would only enhance such 'facts'?.

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  Because they have a Teflon brain
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  TV commercial seen in the United States, from a Law firm "Asking if you were ever sexually abused by JEHOVAHS WITNESSES, please call".

  by Dunedain in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ok, so i don't know if this is "old news", and if this has been seen, and or mentioned already.

  if it was, i do apologize, but i feel i have to mention what has been seen on tv, within the past 24 hours.. first off, i would like to say that i did not personally see this commercial.

  however, it was seen by someone that i can verify 100% is telling the truth, as it was my own father who saw it.

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  Bugbear

  I think that lawyers in the USA as well as lawyers elsewhere are only looking for business opportunities. With the Candace Conti case in calif. and The Royal commission I Australia as a background they are eager to seek more business opportunities. Don´t they get 10 – 20% commission? If the law firm has some inside information from the borg. They can support the claim from the victims effectively at least in some cases. It smells gold for them….
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  Aron-Ra: Meteorology and the Flood

  by schnell in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few days ago, aron-ra posted a new video commencing what he promises to be a new series debunking the noachian flood.

  he did this despite the fact that every adult should know it didn't happen, and yet many do.. i'd like to remind everyone what the insight book says: .

  the genesis account of creation tells how on the second “day” jehovah made an expanse about the earth, and this expanse (called “heaven”) formed a division between the waters below it, that is, the oceans, and the waters above it.

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  Bugbear

  I feel it important to quote an American lawyer from 1900th century named Ingersoll,:

  Who the hell could possibly love and worship a father that drowned all his children in a flood..???
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  Jehovah's Witness / ex-JW Suicide Rate?

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  it's no secret that both remaining a jw or leaving the wts can take a toll on mental health.

  some will suffer from depression and ultimately some will have thoughts of suicide and a few will succumb to those.. but i don't recall ever seeing any hard stats or studies on it though.

  i'm sure we all know of some people who have committed suicide but i don't know if, because you may have loose association with a much larger pool of people through the religion, that this only seems higher or maybe not be actually higher than the general population.. what i mean is, you go to a kh here there maybe 100-150 people, you attend circuit and district conventions with many tens of thousands - if any one person commits suicide then you likely hear about it and it becomes part of the anecdotal 'evidence' that is then put forward as a fact that there is a higher rate ... but is there?.

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  Bugbear

  Unfortunately, this is not academically verified facts, but when I faded after several hart-attacks, and severe depression, many “brothers” came to comfort me (in fact 6 out of 10) and amongst them a CO ,,, and they told me, that we have experienced the same as you. Several of them offered my “pills” that could ease my life. I found that almost every one of my “brothers” used pharma to keep going on. Fortunately my own daughter (one of them) is an examined doctor within the specialties within psychiatrist, and geriatrics….She has told me that most of her patients, do have “religious broodings” and some of them are actually JW.S. Some of them “behave” quite naturally and are not disturbing other of her patients. But there are some who think that they must preach that the end is near and if the other patients don’t behave according to their whishes, it causes sometimes riots in her hospital.
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  Jehovah's Witness / ex-JW Suicide Rate?

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  it's no secret that both remaining a jw or leaving the wts can take a toll on mental health.

  some will suffer from depression and ultimately some will have thoughts of suicide and a few will succumb to those.. but i don't recall ever seeing any hard stats or studies on it though.

  i'm sure we all know of some people who have committed suicide but i don't know if, because you may have loose association with a much larger pool of people through the religion, that this only seems higher or maybe not be actually higher than the general population.. what i mean is, you go to a kh here there maybe 100-150 people, you attend circuit and district conventions with many tens of thousands - if any one person commits suicide then you likely hear about it and it becomes part of the anecdotal 'evidence' that is then put forward as a fact that there is a higher rate ... but is there?.

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  Simon

  You are quite right as you said: But it's just empty claims with anecdotes….

  Being associated with JW:s for over 40 years and in close connections to 4 diff. congregations I have only heard of two very concrete cases where there is no doubt ..it was suicide. But then again, what is very truly suicide? One elder about 55 years of age, with many children…taking his car in the middle of the night with no security belts, driving into a mountain face in 120 km/hour??? Or a young pioneer whit a motorbike driving from a bridge into a river with just about the same speed…? Those cases were not considered as suicide, even though the insurance company insisted on it…
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  Jehovah's Witness / ex-JW Suicide Rate?

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  it's no secret that both remaining a jw or leaving the wts can take a toll on mental health.

  some will suffer from depression and ultimately some will have thoughts of suicide and a few will succumb to those.. but i don't recall ever seeing any hard stats or studies on it though.

  i'm sure we all know of some people who have committed suicide but i don't know if, because you may have loose association with a much larger pool of people through the religion, that this only seems higher or maybe not be actually higher than the general population.. what i mean is, you go to a kh here there maybe 100-150 people, you attend circuit and district conventions with many tens of thousands - if any one person commits suicide then you likely hear about it and it becomes part of the anecdotal 'evidence' that is then put forward as a fact that there is a higher rate ... but is there?.

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  Bugbear

  Here is a link to some that think he knows what he´s talking about:

  http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1824