Posts by edp81

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How JW's Spend Their Time

by jgnat in

march 9 wt study,

remain in my word page 8, february 1, 2003 watchtower, can you be happy and secure in your work?

(direct wt quotes in red.

edp81

You're probably right, jgnat.

Personally, I haven't read very much out of the NWT. Therefore, I guess that I am not really qualified to say too much about it.

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"We are also found false witnesses of God"

by Noumenon in

1 corinthians 15: 15 says "morever, we are also found false witnesses of god, because we have borne witness against god that he raised up the christ, but whom he did not raise up if the dead are really not to be raised up.".

jw's are guilty of being false witnesses to god in a similar manner as paul states above, because of their insistence that jesus was enthroned as king in heaven in 1914. they need to ditch this unconvincing teaching propped up by it's dodgy chronology.

it's high time to realise that there was no invisible 'parousia' that started in that year, and that christ's parousia is still a future event, to commence when he sits on his white horse and goes into battle at armageddon..

edp81

kat_newmas,

Please understand that when I say what I am about to say, I am not trying to degrade you in any way.

I really think that you have a wrong view of who God really is. By what you say, I gather that you think that God changes His way of doing things to fit each person and try to bring each person to Himself.

While God certainly is trying to bring each and every person to Himself, at the same time He has set and objective standard that all men must meet in order to have a relationship with Him. This standard is spelled out in the Bible.

I would encourage to read the Bible and see what you can find about what God says about Himself in His own book.

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"We are also found false witnesses of God"

by Noumenon in

1 corinthians 15: 15 says "morever, we are also found false witnesses of god, because we have borne witness against god that he raised up the christ, but whom he did not raise up if the dead are really not to be raised up.".

jw's are guilty of being false witnesses to god in a similar manner as paul states above, because of their insistence that jesus was enthroned as king in heaven in 1914. they need to ditch this unconvincing teaching propped up by it's dodgy chronology.

it's high time to realise that there was no invisible 'parousia' that started in that year, and that christ's parousia is still a future event, to commence when he sits on his white horse and goes into battle at armageddon..

edp81

So, would you say that truth is relative?

And would you say that absolutely?

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What does the Bible say about Jesus Christ?

by UnDisfellowshipped in

who is jesus christ?

what does the bible say?

1: jesus christ is god almighty, the supreme being [omnipotent] (john 1:1-3; john 20:28-29; hebrews 1:6, 1:8, 1:10; psalm 45:6; psalm 102:25; titus 2:13; romans 9:5; colossians 2:9).

edp81

starScream,

Congrats on becoming a Junior Member!!

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What does the Bible say about Jesus Christ?

by UnDisfellowshipped in

who is jesus christ?

what does the bible say?

1: jesus christ is god almighty, the supreme being [omnipotent] (john 1:1-3; john 20:28-29; hebrews 1:6, 1:8, 1:10; psalm 45:6; psalm 102:25; titus 2:13; romans 9:5; colossians 2:9).

edp81

The witnesses are taught that it is "all about what the Bible says", when the WTS really means "it is all about what we say". There is a VAST difference here. What the WTS says is definitely not synonymous with what the Bible says.

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What does the Bible say about Jesus Christ?

by UnDisfellowshipped in

who is jesus christ?

what does the bible say?

1: jesus christ is god almighty, the supreme being [omnipotent] (john 1:1-3; john 20:28-29; hebrews 1:6, 1:8, 1:10; psalm 45:6; psalm 102:25; titus 2:13; romans 9:5; colossians 2:9).

edp81

starScream,

I wholeheartedly agree with you when you say that God is more than one person. I just wasn't sure how to interpret what you were meaning in your first post on this thread.

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What does the Bible say about Jesus Christ?

by UnDisfellowshipped in

who is jesus christ?

what does the bible say?

1: jesus christ is god almighty, the supreme being [omnipotent] (john 1:1-3; john 20:28-29; hebrews 1:6, 1:8, 1:10; psalm 45:6; psalm 102:25; titus 2:13; romans 9:5; colossians 2:9).

edp81

When you say that God created all things by Himself, are you saying that the Father created all things by Himself?

If so, then why did God say, "Let US make man in OUR own image"?

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"We are also found false witnesses of God"

by Noumenon in

1 corinthians 15: 15 says "morever, we are also found false witnesses of god, because we have borne witness against god that he raised up the christ, but whom he did not raise up if the dead are really not to be raised up.".

jw's are guilty of being false witnesses to god in a similar manner as paul states above, because of their insistence that jesus was enthroned as king in heaven in 1914. they need to ditch this unconvincing teaching propped up by it's dodgy chronology.

it's high time to realise that there was no invisible 'parousia' that started in that year, and that christ's parousia is still a future event, to commence when he sits on his white horse and goes into battle at armageddon..

edp81

You must also remember 2 Tim. 3:16. "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God . . . ." Inspiration of God literally means "God-breathed". God used human writers to write a divine book, the Bible. God inspired these humans to write this book.

What significance does this have?

You may think that this is heretical at first, but think about it for a while. If all of the Bible is written by inspiration of God, then Jesus words do not have any more wisdom / power / significance than the Apostle Paul's words.

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I am fighting back

by thetruthaboutjws in

hi this is my first post here.

so i should probably introduce myself.

i live in a small community i was reaised for 17 years as a witness.

edp81

Nice graphics TTAJW.

I do have one concern though. I am not a JW, and thank God I never have been.

My concern is: Will JWs open the pamphlet and read it if you bash them on the cover?

I sincerely hope that I am wrong. I hope that you are able to help a lot of JWs see "the light".

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What does the Bible say about Jesus Christ?

by UnDisfellowshipped in

who is jesus christ?

what does the bible say?

1: jesus christ is god almighty, the supreme being [omnipotent] (john 1:1-3; john 20:28-29; hebrews 1:6, 1:8, 1:10; psalm 45:6; psalm 102:25; titus 2:13; romans 9:5; colossians 2:9).

edp81

I agree with just about all the statements that you made there. I have been studying the Bible for 4 years in the Bible & Theology department of the college that I attend. These statements go right along with what we have been studying.