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  Is it Love?

  by donkey in

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  simple question: if a schizophrenic falls in love with one of the people he/she is delusional about is it really love?

  more importantly what is the reasoning behind your answer?

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  Amanda,

  There is a key difference. You have met these people in person or spoken with them. You did not just believe in them and then form a "love" for them without knowing them in person.
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  Is it Love?

  by donkey in

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  simple question: if a schizophrenic falls in love with one of the people he/she is delusional about is it really love?

  more importantly what is the reasoning behind your answer?

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  If the subject being loved is not real then is the love real?

  Does the subject of the love need to be proved real for the love to be real?

  How is the love for God any different than the love a schizophrenic has for an imaginary friend?
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  I know the Bible is True

  by SwedishChef in

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  i know the bible is true because.... * it is infallible.

  there is not one contradiction with these pages.

  humans are fallible; the bible is not.. * the word of god is the source of true wisdom.

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  William,

  I just know the Green Gnome loves me!!
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  Is it Love?

  by donkey in

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  simple question: if a schizophrenic falls in love with one of the people he/she is delusional about is it really love?

  more importantly what is the reasoning behind your answer?

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  donkey

  Simple question: If a Schizophrenic falls in love with one of the people he/she is delusional about is it really love? If not what is it? More importantly what is the reasoning behind your answer?
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  Is religion hampering the progress of humanity?

  by happysunshine in

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  is religion hampering the progress of humanity?

  is it an outdated 'caveman' notion that just keeps getting redressed in new clothes?

  comments?

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  Religion is a collective insanity. -- Mikhail Bakunin
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  I know the Bible is True

  by SwedishChef in

  1. watchtower
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  i know the bible is true because.... * it is infallible.

  there is not one contradiction with these pages.

  humans are fallible; the bible is not.. * the word of god is the source of true wisdom.

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  donkey

  One needs only to look at the crazy believers on this thread to realize that belief in God is a mental illness (or mental delusion):

  I stand amazed in the presence of Jesus the Nazarene, And wonder how He could love me, A sinner condemned, unclean.
  How marvelous! how wonderful! And my song shall ever be: Oh how marvelous! Oh how wonderful, Is my Savior's love for me!
  For me it was in the garden, He prayed, "Not my will but thine;" He had no tears for His own griefs but sweat-drops of blood for mine.
  He took my sins and my sorrows, He made them His very own; He bore the burden to Calv'ry, And suffered and died alone.
  When with the ransomed in glory His face I at last shall see, 'Twill be my joy thru the ages to sing of His love for me.
  How marvelous! how wonderful! And my song shall ever be: Oh how marvelous! Oh how wonderful, Is my Savior's love for me!

  Donkey: Is God omnipotent?
  Believer: Oh yes he is, praise the Lord!!

  Donkey: Did he come to earth as a fleshly man?
  Believer: Oh yes he did do that, praise be to God in heaven!!

  Donkey: Did he sacrifice himself for us?
  Believer: Oh yes he was the ultimate sacrifice, I love you so much Lord Jesus!!

  Donkey: Who was Jesus sacrificing himself to?
  Believer: To God in the heavens of course, praise you Father!!

  Donkey: Why was Jesus sacrificed?
  Believer: So that we might be saved, praise the Lord!!

  Donkey: Saved from whom?
  Believer: So that we might be saved from the warth of the Almighty. I am so thankful that you loved me, Jesus!!!

  Donkey: So let me get this straight then. I should be eternally thankful to an omnipotent god who became flesh in order to sacrifice himself to himself, so that I as his creation his creations might escape the wrath of himself?Believer: Why do you twist my words like that? Forgive them Lord Jesus they do not know you like I do!!!

  Donkey: Oh I apologize then. But since you feel compelled to preach the word of God just as the spirit compels you to then help me understand which part of what you are saying I misunderstood...

  Final ThoughtIf you took out the word God in the speech of the everyday believer and substituted it with the "Green Gnome" and believers were seen praying to and praising and killing others in the name of the "Green Gnome" they would be immediately labelled as insane by all of society. But by using the word God instead (God is no more provable than the Green Gnome by the way) it is perfectly acceptable and even behaviour which is lauded by society. We have a long way to evolve emotionally as a species indeed

  Even Balaam need to be guided by an ASS
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  God has never failed me ...

  by CoolBreeze in

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  just wanted to share this personal thought.

  god has never failed me, but every religion has.. .

  god has always been eternal.

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  donkey

  Last saying of the lazy loser: "The Lord will provide..."
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  I know the Bible is True

  by SwedishChef in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know the bible is true because.... * it is infallible.

  there is not one contradiction with these pages.

  humans are fallible; the bible is not.. * the word of god is the source of true wisdom.

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  donkey

  When you see someone say "I just know...." aren't you reminded of someone?

  Who?

  For me I am reminded of the gambler who said "I just know that Rising Star will will win race number 4"

  I know one thing too - the gambler spent himself silly with his "knowledge" and ended up as a loser anyway.
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  God has never failed me ...

  by CoolBreeze in

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  just wanted to share this personal thought.

  god has never failed me, but every religion has.. .

  god has always been eternal.

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  donkey

  Rem: Do you believe in the green fairy or the orange one?

  If god is so awesome - why is he so "not there"? Why is he so impossible to prove? Why does he play games with people if he has so much love? Would you let your children go through sheer hell just to prove a point?

  I used to think I hated God. Now I am pleased to say that I never ever hated God...if you hate nothing is it still hatred?
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  Donkey's never-ending atheism thread

  by donkey in

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  wih the permission of simon, i would like to start a thread to act as a collection of thought, quotes and miscellany on atheism and agnosticism.

  there are so many other threads on this subject but no one place which one can go to on here.

  i have much to share - enjoy and contribute with me please.give me the storm and stress of thought and action rather than the dead calm of ignorance and faith.

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  Some claim that atheism is a belief system or a religion unto itself.

  Well, let's examine this objection. First off the claim is a contradiction: atheism is LACK OF belief - not an opposite belief system. So perhasps the claim is made because individuals such as myself tout atheism (or are perceived as adherents or followers). How do I respond to that? If my atheism is such a non-issue , why am I spending so much of my time making statements about it in an evangelical manner?

  As one author states on this issue: "It's not something I fight for. When I get all worked up about the virtues of atheism, it's only a way of showing people that I'm glad to enjoy those virtues. In this matter I'm exalting the consequences, not the causes. But of course, I see atheism as the main cause for these highly desirable consequences".

  "What consequences?" - you ask. The consequence is appreciation for things around me because of what they are - not because I feel some sense of gratitude to some spirit in the sky. The opening of my eyes to reality, the end of pretense, the cessation of denial. I know that I am not living for the hope of a future reward by someone who can kill me. I know I am not living a life of sacrifice for the hope of a good afterlife. I am living for this life; for my own experiences, my own fun, my own sense of adventure, my own sense of building, my own energy, my own set of emotions and rules, my own worship of me. I know that this all sounds egotistical - well it is; but not in the traditional sense of the word. I don't think I am better than anyone else; I do know I am better than I was yesterday or even 5 minutes ago.

  I am free. As Patrick Henry said "Give me freedom or give me death". Freedom is here now for me. Every thing I do I do by choice and I am free to make such choice. Will life throw curveballs at me? Of course - but my reaction to those curveballs is my freedom. I am living under the consequence that I am accountable to myself and if I make a mess of my life now I have myself to blame. I can enjoy it to the best of my emotional and physical ability or I can give up and look to blame others, look to blame undseen Gods, live for some fabled future reward, or I can be the best person I can be at any moment in time.