Posts by Oubliette

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Find What Your Social Status Was in the Congregation

by Mary in

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ever notice how the "happiest people on earth" are also the most class-oriented?

the social structure in the congregation is more complex than the blueprints of a nuclear warhead, but just so that you "remember your place", see if you can find where your niche was/is:.

1. at the top of the social order of things within the congregation is of course, the presiding overseer and his family.

Just got back from trick or treating with the kids...

by cognac in

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husband is completely, beside himself livid.

he's going to the elders on me.

i've havent been to a meeting in over a year.

Oubliette

Cognac: Husband is completely, beside himself LIVID. He's going to the elders on me.

Nothing screams "CULT" like one family member turning in another.

There actually is nothing the elders can "do" to you. Sure, they can "disfellowship" you, but it sounds like you already cut off all "fellowship" with them a year ago.

Since your hubby is still under their thought/mind control, they can certainly mess him up which will no doubt cause all sorts of complications in your life. But he's an adult and he has to make his own choices.

Ask him why the ultimatums? You would never do that to him? Would you ever say, "You have to leave JWs or I'll leave you!"? But many JWs have left their spouses when they left the organization.

It's so twisted.

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Has anyone actually read the study wt for sun nov 2nd????!!!

by stuckinarut2 in

o m g...(yes that is a very childish reaction...but i couldn't think of a more appropriate expression!).

if you haven't yet read it...please do so..... it is so ridiculous!

so leading, so distorted, and full of "bait and switch" techniques.. "prove you have the truth"..by seeing how neutral witnesses were in war times?

Oubliette

But seriously folks, the very notion of "having the truth" as if "truth" is a thing that can be possessed by a single individual or group at the exclusion of others is simply a ridiculous notion.

If I know something that is true and I share it with you, be both now know it. If you share it with someone else, now all three of us know it. I can't somehow "lose" it even if we have a falling out.

The WTBTS talks about "truth" as if it was a tangible physical object rather than the abstraction that it is.

Let's review: It's a cult!

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Has anyone actually read the study wt for sun nov 2nd????!!!

by stuckinarut2 in

o m g...(yes that is a very childish reaction...but i couldn't think of a more appropriate expression!).

if you haven't yet read it...please do so..... it is so ridiculous!

so leading, so distorted, and full of "bait and switch" techniques.. "prove you have the truth"..by seeing how neutral witnesses were in war times?

Oubliette

If simply being neutral during war identifies a group as "having the truth," then Quakers have it!

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Has anyone actually read the study wt for sun nov 2nd????!!!

by stuckinarut2 in

o m g...(yes that is a very childish reaction...but i couldn't think of a more appropriate expression!).

if you haven't yet read it...please do so..... it is so ridiculous!

so leading, so distorted, and full of "bait and switch" techniques.. "prove you have the truth"..by seeing how neutral witnesses were in war times?

Oubliette

Stuck: How do you spell "hypocrites"?

You did it correctly.

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If Halloween, Christmas, Birthdays, Thanksgiving became all of a sudden acceptable, would you be ready to join up?

by Quarterback in

how fast do you think the wt would grow if all these celebrations were no longer an issue?.

.

Oubliette

They're almost there now. The only things that make them different any more from any otther mainstream church is that they shun dissenters and those that accept blood transfusions.

Let's review: It's a cult!

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He Got Reinstated . . .

by Hamahead in

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feeling low today.

i haven't posted for a long time (forgotten log in details = new username) i'm in a good place with my family now and have built a life outside the religion.. today i found out a good friend has gone back and got himself reinstated to be able to have contact with his elderly mother.

that is the only reason apparently.

Oubliette

HH, that's the spirit!

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worst canadian band - lighthouse

by berrygerry in

lighthouse.. a pathetic copy of chicago (an over-rep'd band imo).

thoughts?.

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Oubliette

Haters gotta' hate.

So, berrygerry, let's hear some of YOUR music!

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Reaching Loved Ones Stuck in a Cult: Reciprocal Letter Writing

by 00DAD in

i've been toying with an idea that i think just might have some legs.

so here i am trotting it out for all of you to consider and comment upon.

for many of us, we are extremely frustrated by the fact that we have no way to communicate with our loved ones still stuck in the organization.

Oubliette

It's time. Thanks to all who offered to help!

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He Got Reinstated . . .

by Hamahead in

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friends

feeling low today.

i haven't posted for a long time (forgotten log in details = new username) i'm in a good place with my family now and have built a life outside the religion.. today i found out a good friend has gone back and got himself reinstated to be able to have contact with his elderly mother.

that is the only reason apparently.

Oubliette

Hamahead: I'm tempted to keep him at a distance now - the lack of integrity is unpalatable

You obviously are taking this very personally, but should you?

How does this person's actions affect you this way? Has he started shunning you? Or has he just done this to be able to reconnect with his own mother?

Being judgmental is a JW trait. We can disagree with a person's actions without condemning them simply because they do things we would not do.