Oubliette

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  GB says, "Our way of worship will soon be altered."

  by Separation of Powers in

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  2. beliefs

  my mom called me yesterday to ask how i was doing.

  i hadn't seen her in a while, so it was nice to hear her voice.

  we went through the motions of jw small talk and then she started telling me about her co visit from last week.

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  First, whenever anyone in a leadership position in the organization says the word "soon" you know it's meaningless. They've been saying "soon" for over 100 years.

  As for the rest of the statement, it's so obtuse it could mean anything, (assuming your mom even repeated it accurately).

  That being said, this religion has changed so radically over the last few years that it's already a true statement. JWs are practically mainstream. If they drop the no-blood policy and end shunning they'd be practically indistinguishable from most other religions.

  Let's review: It's a cult!

  
  
  
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  The contempt of Anthony Morris: the face doesn't lie.

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
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  i have noticed something even long before even looking into ttatt, something about morris bothered me.

  i am personally very attuned to body language, facial expressions and general subtleties in human interaction.

  there was something about his face that really bothered me, and i will explain it.

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  BTeB: They've reduced themselves to cheap Internet copies of TV evangelists, right down to denouncing gays... just before they get caught at the airport with a rentboy helping them with their luggage.

  I can't wait for that to happen.

  Ol' Tony getting caught with his tight pants down!

  
  

  
  
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  Display of National Flags in Kingdom Halls in Chile: WTS' Response

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember this and other threads a few months back, on the subject that some kingdom halls in chile acquiesced to govt rules that every building should display the national flag on the day of celebration?.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/262505/kingdom-hall-chile-has-national-flag?size=20&page=1.

  many of us here and around the net, calling on our dub experiences cried "never would that happen!

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  "... the flag is simply an emblem of the state ..."
  

  It was just a pinch of incense ...

  

  
  

  The cowards that run this religion have completely lost their moral compass. Anyone that follows them is bound for spiritual shipwreck and ruin.

  Grow some balls, exit the Kingdom Hall and live your own life!
  

  Let's review: It's a cult!

  
  
  
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  JW Bethel Video - long version

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  listener gave a link to a short version.

  not taking away from that post but here is a more complete version, 2 minutes longer.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbmyudrwgs.

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  WP: I am wondering if they had to pay royalties to use his song?

  Legally, the producers of this video are required to have obtained a synchronization license for the music AND the particular master recording of it.

  Failure to do so exposes them to a copyright infringement suit.

  Pretty ironic considering how pugnaciously the WTBTS pursues even minor infringements of any of their copyrights.
  
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  What to do about wife and elders

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seams like every time i turn around i find out that the elders are trying to meet with one of my kids or are talking with them about things and of course my wife is instigating it.

  if i say anything to my children she mentions something and they come running.

  one of the ms's is also studying with them as well.

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  Definitely assert your authority as the spiritual head.

  Tell the elders in no uncertain terms that they are NOT to meet with your wife or any other family members without you present and/or your express permission, which at this time you are NOT giving.

  You gotta' have boundaries.
  
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  New JW video, song and dance

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the current jws do not cease to amaze.

  here's their latest video on youtube and straight from bethel.. there is a lot of work involved in this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwou6e5vwbo .

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  OK, there's nothing wrong with what the R&F Bethel drones are doing in the video. I mean seriously, who wouldn't want to dance down the hallway with a toilet brush? Everyone gets that!

  Doh!!!

  It's that the freakin' WTBTS leadership has forbidden this kind of thing for three centuries! Do the math: 19th, 20th and the early 21st Century.

  This is NOT your father's religion.

  The GB has all gone apostate and now resemble the 700 Club/Mormons/Scientology/Catholic Church .... EXCEPT ... they'll still disfellowship and shun your ass if you dare say anything negative about the WT leaders.

  Why? Because the GB members are all a miserable bunch of narcissistic whiners!

  
  
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  My mother says I should just DA already.

  by Julia Orwell in

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  2. experiences

  cut the cord.

  sever all ties.

  start new.. and she's right.

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  Hi Julia,

  Moving on is important, but being a JW will always be a part of who you are now.

  Personally, I wouldn't DA because that's still playing by their rules. But that's just me. Many here have and said that gave them closure.

  That being said, I really do believe that seeing a counselor is a great idea. It helped me. It is hard to find one familiar with ex-cult members, but if they're really good at helping people they can still help you. I worked with one for about a year. I gave him Steven Hassan's book to read (I recommend Releasing the Bonds) and that helped him to help me.

  Best wishes, 

  Oubliette
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  Watchtower choir

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think i've seen it all now.

  nothing surprises me.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpfzs7l_3sq.

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  ToesUp: "what happened to the religion we were born into"?

  It's gone, long gone. But don't say that or you'll be labelled an apostate, which is ironic considering it's the WT leadership that have actually gone apostate.
  
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  Where is Charles Sinutko now?

  by moggy lover in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does anyone have any news about charles sinutko, who give the infamous "stay alive till '75" talk?

  forty years have passed since then, so is he still alive and still with the watchtower?

  anyone heard anything?.

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  JE: he was some kind of singer.

  Yeah, a bad one! Uggggh, what dreck.

  When they released some of the Kingdom Melodies with vocals, one of the tunes featured him. It was the perfect example of something that was really bad, but because a prominent elder did it everyone gushed, "Oh, isn't that lovely!" when in fact it was really, really ugly.

  
  
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  New JW video, song and dance

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the current jws do not cease to amaze.

  here's their latest video on youtube and straight from bethel.. there is a lot of work involved in this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwou6e5vwbo .

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  VI: I doubt this video was made for 'family night' at Bethel. It's too much effort for just a limited audience but I do believe it was made for the Witnesses in general and not the public.

  Agreed.

  This idea is nonsense. Just look at the images:

  • How many are at night?
  • Could all of these clips have been done in one evening on a spontaneous whim?

  Seriously!

  This was clearly planned for a while and then executed. The post production alone had to take many hours. How long would it take a lone "Bethelite" to put this together with the occasional hour here and the stolen hour there?

  Come on, people! How 'bout some critical thinking skills!!!

  This is clearly NOT something anyone put together in a couple of hours of their spare time.