Oubliette

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  Could a religion caught up in abuse and fraud possibly be "true"?

  by Jonathan Drake in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i recently had a discussion with a witness in which we were talking about the catholic church.

  i led them out with talk about the fraud and child abuse scandals and everyone was agreeing and making comments about how terrible it is and how obviously wrong they are.

  after about 30 minutes of solid rapport building in this manner, even incorporating scriptures regarding some doctrinal errors in their doctrine (catholic), i said this:.

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  OTWO, could you please provide the citation for the Watchtower that has this quote:
  

  "A religion that teaches lies cannot be true."

  I can only make out that it's December 1st, but can't tell which year.

  
  

  
  
  
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  Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  alert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .

  over 2 minutes of pranking .

  as i type he is editing the recording into a video .

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  Cedars really missed an opportunity here. I mean, he had an actual GB member on the phone! He should at least have asked him if his refrigerator was running or if he had Prince Albert in a can?

  Dumb.

  All this will do is make life miserable for a few low-level drones at Bethel that let this call through.

  
  
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  Happy at Bethel - Confirmation that it's Official?

  by jw07 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just came across this photo regarding the 'happy at bethel' video.

  seems like confirmation of co-ordination by higher ups.

  link - happy at bethel email photo.

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  On another note, why would they care?

  The unauthorized use of copyright music (the song) is a real problem.

  Other than that, the video makes them look more normal than they really are. So why would the GB object to people thinking workers at Bethel are normal? One can only wonder!
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  Happy at Bethel - Confirmation that it's Official?

  by jw07 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just came across this photo regarding the 'happy at bethel' video.

  seems like confirmation of co-ordination by higher ups.

  link - happy at bethel email photo.

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  Well what did they expect? Seriously!
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  Could a religion caught up in abuse and fraud possibly be "true"?

  by Jonathan Drake in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i recently had a discussion with a witness in which we were talking about the catholic church.

  i led them out with talk about the fraud and child abuse scandals and everyone was agreeing and making comments about how terrible it is and how obviously wrong they are.

  after about 30 minutes of solid rapport building in this manner, even incorporating scriptures regarding some doctrinal errors in their doctrine (catholic), i said this:.

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  No, but the fact that you asked suggests that you know this.
  
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  Musical video on JW-TV February monthly program - must see !!

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you must see the musical video at the end of this month program (aprox.

  at 1:04:30).... i don't like to use "must" but this is wow... if you think they couldn't get any lower... just be prepared...

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  WGO: The cart song was normal to them ... I cannot believe that they are not bothered about it

  It's really disturbing that seemingly normal people can think this drivel is good. It's not.

  
  

  

  
  

  
  

  The emperor is not only naked, he's ugly too!

  
  
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  Using the tv.jw.org as a wake up tool with my kids

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, i have been badgered recently to do some kind of family study by my wife.

  thanks to tv.jw.org i now have a really easy tool to use that not only passes this time but actually makes them question the organisation.. our sessions skipping through the delights of the monthly broadcast have been very interesting.

  derision at the wooden delivery of the gb.

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  Stirred: GB opinions are still just opinions.

  They don't think so.

  
  
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  First brand new Kingdom Hall built

  by Kanon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well if you check the new pay attention at the meeting video their hall is one of the 1st.

  flat roof, lots of glass and a jw.org logo.

  lucky them

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  Simon: Now they are planning ahead for resale for when they are finished with the buildings.

  Which tells me that the leaders of this organization (the real leaders, whoever they are) know that they've got a cash-cow money machine here and that they're just going to milk it for all it's worth.

  They're clearly not worried about any fictional "Armageddon" coming anytime soon.
  

  
  
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  Using the tv.jw.org as a wake up tool with my kids

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, i have been badgered recently to do some kind of family study by my wife.

  thanks to tv.jw.org i now have a really easy tool to use that not only passes this time but actually makes them question the organisation.. our sessions skipping through the delights of the monthly broadcast have been very interesting.

  derision at the wooden delivery of the gb.

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  konceptual99, that is fantastic!

  As long as your children are encouraged to be themselves, to use all of their creative talents and abilities and are not pressured to conform, they have a good chance of escaping this cult.

  Some books and essays you may want to read with them are:

  • The Giver - Lois Lowry - middle school (skip the movie, read the book)
  • Anthem - Ayn Rand
  • 1984 and/or Animal Farm - George Orwell
  • Self Reliance - Emerson - this essay is challenging, but worth it. One my high school students who is a born-in JW told me this was life changing

  
  

  Keep us posted!

  Oubliette
  

  
  
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  Using the tv.jw.org as a wake up tool with my kids

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, i have been badgered recently to do some kind of family study by my wife.

  thanks to tv.jw.org i now have a really easy tool to use that not only passes this time but actually makes them question the organisation.. our sessions skipping through the delights of the monthly broadcast have been very interesting.

  derision at the wooden delivery of the gb.

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  K99: One of the things I wish to have is kids that can think for themselves, can take an objective approach and are not against the WTS just because daddy says they are morons. 

  This is a great point. This means that, in addition to pointing out the logical fallacies and hypocrisy of the organization, you need to supply your children with productive means to exercise their talents and develop their thinking skills.

  What special talents or interests to they have?