Oubliette
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Zone visit meeting Australasia region 7th march...
by stuckinarut2 ini'm sitting here now going insane with this program of fear, obligation and guilt!.
oh man....seriously mind numbing.. i can't bring myself to share too much of it all now.... but i just want to get out...... tell you all more soon about the manipulative trash..... .
anyone else go to this?
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Zone Visit - Sri Lanka Governing Body member David Splane
by Liyanage inlast sunday (23rd february 2015) we had our zone visit ( visit headquarters representative).
this time governing body member david splane and brother john ekrann came to sri lanka.
and they spent almost one week in sri lanka.. .
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Next time you see one of the GB members ask they why don't they get a job like everyone else? The apostle Paul had one. Do they think they are better than he was? - Acts 18:3
Effin' hypocrites! Lazy bastards sponging off of their followers. Talk about fleecing the flock!
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Effect of reading here.
by New day insaomebody mentioned in a recent thread here i think that the more they read here the more they feel angry at the wt.
personally, as an ex-elder (only resigned a few months ago) i feel that it is more like suddenly being on the outside looking in at a whole group of people playing parts.
the zealous pioneers answering all the time.
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Most people assume roles all the time, and it is not necessarily a conscious thing.
Read about Zimbardo's Stanford Prison Experiment and you'll learn about one of the most powerful scientific studies done on the subject of individuals assuming the role they are assigned.
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Is the rule of the "two witnesses" always applied in cases of apostasy?
by Judge Rochefort inhello there.
this is my first thread here.i was wondering if anybody here could help me with a question that i have.my question is this: is it always applied the rule of the "two witnesses" in cases of apostasy?
i'll put an example:if a jw is working with another jw and one of them is continuously talking about teachings contrary to the bible truth as taught by jehovah's witnesses, would the testimony of the other jw be enough to form a judicial committee?thanks!
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Judge Rochefort, ironically, the WTBTS loves having apostates. They need a bogeyman. Their entire "theology" falls apart without them. So every once in a while, they need a lamb to sacrifice publicly as an apostate to keep the "fear of God" going among the flock.
On the other hand, they really do NOT like having it widely known that there are pedophiles essentially running free in amongst the sheep. It conflicts with their self-image and their PR campaign.
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Is the rule of the "two witnesses" always applied in cases of apostasy?
by Judge Rochefort inhello there.
this is my first thread here.i was wondering if anybody here could help me with a question that i have.my question is this: is it always applied the rule of the "two witnesses" in cases of apostasy?
i'll put an example:if a jw is working with another jw and one of them is continuously talking about teachings contrary to the bible truth as taught by jehovah's witnesses, would the testimony of the other jw be enough to form a judicial committee?thanks!
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jwleaks, funny story. I know it's fictional, but it makes good reading!
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What is the basis for authority for the governing body?
by Half banana ina word to jehovahs witnesses: what is the basis for the authority the seven members of the governing body can claim in controlling the lives of eight million followers?
the organisation they represent has never got one useful piece of information correct in one hundred and thirty five years... so why should they be believed?.
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David Miscavige, the current leader of Scientology, supposedly said, "Power is seized."
In reference to the WTBTS, Rutherford did it back in 1916 and a chain of opportunists have taken over since his day until now.
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Who leaves first, the husband or wife?
by snugglebunny inwhen it comes to a simple matter of no longer believing the teachings of jw's, it appears to me that it's more common for the husband to make the first move to leave the religion.
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OEJ: I feel like we're getting way off track, the point was that men are different than women
Yes and yes!
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Who leaves first, the husband or wife?
by snugglebunny inwhen it comes to a simple matter of no longer believing the teachings of jw's, it appears to me that it's more common for the husband to make the first move to leave the religion.
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OEJ: On the topic of multitasking, I wasn't saying that anyone becomes more productive while juggling multiple tasks (this is the myth part of it)
I know you didn't say that. And being more productive is only part of the myth part of it. The fact is: no one can attempt to "multitask" without taking a huge hit in both productivity AND in cognitive performance.
OEJ: I was saying that women are better at it than men.
So women are better are engaging in mythical activity than men?!?
OEJ: It's a fruitless debate, though, if everyone's going to take offense and read things into it when they're not there.
I certainly did not take any offense.
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Cases of fornication when only one of the involved individuals will confess
by Judge Rochefort inwhat happens in cases of fornication between two jehovah's wintesses if one of them confesses but the other denies the facts?would there be a judicial committee to the one who confesses while the other individual would be left as if nothing had happened?i would love to know specially the opinions of elders or ex-elders.thank you!
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It's sort of a reverse-variation of the Prisoner's Dilemma:
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Cases of fornication when only one of the involved individuals will confess
by Judge Rochefort inwhat happens in cases of fornication between two jehovah's wintesses if one of them confesses but the other denies the facts?would there be a judicial committee to the one who confesses while the other individual would be left as if nothing had happened?i would love to know specially the opinions of elders or ex-elders.thank you!
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Interesting. I never saw it happen, all though I heard of it. (I was an elder for over 20 years).
The Two Witness Rule would absolutely apply. The denier would probably have to offer some explanation as to why the other person would "confess to something that never happened," but they could cite the case of the Amalekite that claimed he killed Saul as Biblical precedent for people lying about things they've done for selfish gain.
The motive in a situation like this would have to be something like some have mentioned above: obsession or insane desire to cause trouble.
If the denier stuck to their guns and there was no other witness, the elders would have no WT sanctioned policy upon which to proceed (notice I did NOT say scriptural).
All that being said, no one should ever admit anything to the elders. They are not your friends and what ever you do in private is none of their business! NONE!