nice try brother lett.
you moved the cups around the table and thought we would not see the slight of hand you were handing us.
you begged for money but you have failed to show yourself capable of handling the monies already provided .
Frank, (aka HMTM), excellent summary.
You just need to add the appropriate scriptural references.
For example, "Who starts a building project without first calculating if he can afford it? - Luke 14:28"
Martin Luther would have been proud.
Oubliette
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imagine that the cult decided to stop shunning family members on the proviso that the dfd person was not actively trying to attack the cult.. (please don't debate whether or not this is likely - it's hypothetical).
how would you respond to your family?.
personally i think i would be less than cooperative.
ABS: Besides who want to listen to a JW talk about Watchtower infomercials/doctrines if one is not allowed to express ones own opinion.
This is an important point. As in all codependent, dysfunctional relationships, they insist on controlling the frame. No subjects may be discussed except the ones which they approve.
By definition, this creates a superficial relationship at best, a highly abusive one at worst.
What kind of relationship can you have with someone when you cannot even be yourself.
This is proof that they do not love you, they only love themselves and allow others around them that feed their narcissistic supply.
The sad thing is, they are really the ones missing. They think they have "the real life," but we know better. They don't; we do!
imagine that the cult decided to stop shunning family members on the proviso that the dfd person was not actively trying to attack the cult.. (please don't debate whether or not this is likely - it's hypothetical).
how would you respond to your family?.
personally i think i would be less than cooperative.
Cofty,
Great question!
I, for one, would take the opportunity to try and reach my "still-in" sons, but I would tread lightly for all of the reasons you mentioned.
There is no question, my relationship(s) will never be the same with either of my children. Still, I am the one that initially taught them these beliefs and I feel an obligation to try and teach them that I was wrong and there is a better way, a much better way.
I'm sure it's different when it's your parents that shun you than siblings or even children. Still, they are family.
Nevertheless, if they want a relationship with me they will have to show that I can trust them and that I am safe.
I believe in unconditional love, but that does not mean that I will allow myself to be abused or mistreated. I maintain appropriate boundaries.
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the neighbor child came over to play with my youngest child.
i think she's about 4 maybe 5. well anyway there was some strawberries out on the counter and she asked if she could have one and i said no.
when i looked over later i saw her sneak one.
Millie, that is such a good idea.
We have to keep in mind that: no matter what CrazyGuy says or does, it is right because He IS CrazyGuy!
the neighbor child came over to play with my youngest child.
i think she's about 4 maybe 5. well anyway there was some strawberries out on the counter and she asked if she could have one and i said no.
when i looked over later i saw her sneak one.
Did you hire some thugs to guard the strawberry bowl?
i saw a rumor a few weeks ago on reddit that the new imitate jesus convention is supposed to present new light and clarified understandings on the disfellowshipping/disassociation practices.. supposedly, if this rumor has any truth to it, there will be a talk given at the convention about how we should not be strict like the pharisees in how we shun people, loosening up some of the jw rules about this practice.. has anyone here heard anything about this or have more info on it?.
That would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath.
I'll believe it when I see it.
the neighbor child came over to play with my youngest child.
i think she's about 4 maybe 5. well anyway there was some strawberries out on the counter and she asked if she could have one and i said no.
when i looked over later i saw her sneak one.
I think you should appoint/anoint seven mental dwarves to start a cultish religion directing everyone to OBEY you, promising that your daughter will be back soon!
In the meantime, please send money for our massive mining project. There seems to be a shortfall of funds and God knows, we can't Lett that happen.
i have talked to him ttat.
and he understands.
he doesn't wanna be a jw.
HTBM,
Captain Obvious really nailed it.
I really liked the way you used the move Divergent to try to reason with your daughter.
You had that conversation, now let it do its work ...
Oubliette
all witnesses are ministers.
from the time a witness is baptized, they are considered ministers.
this religion is getting more ridiculous each passing day.
Minimus: This religion is getting more ridiculous each passing day.
Yes it is.
i know there have been a couple of other threads on this article, but when i read it i just had to share a few comments of my own: .
(the number before each quote refers to the paragraph from which it was taken: .
1 - for centuries, gods servants also lived in expectation of the fulfillment of prophecies concerning the messiah, or christ.. 2 - gods present-day servants also keep in expectation, for prophecies about the messiah are still undergoing fulfillment.
Crazyguy: So it not 136 years of expectation but more like 1700
You are of course correct.
I was, as I'm sure you realize, only referring to the relatively recent round of delusional "prophesying" starting with good ol' Chuck Russell.
