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  Anthony Morris III goes on an eight minute rant over child abuse

  by Richard_I in

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  this is in the july 2015 monthly program on tv.jw.org cedars wrote about it too.. starting at around 42:30 in the video, morris talks about the child abuse situation for almost 10 minutes.

  link to video.

  i'm writing a transcript right now.

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  Dubstepped: we should all be attacking why the elders are even trying to handle these matters in the first place. Child sexual abuse is a CRIME, not something that elders should even be hearing.

  Exactly!

  The elders are completely unqualified to handle such matters.

  It's delusional that they think they are. The elders of course believe this because they are told they are qualified by the WT leadership, people like Anthony Morris. Ultimately, the responsibility is at the top. They need to be called out for their corruption, hypocrisy and lies and held accountable.
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  A difficult yet necessary decision

  by Brother Jeramy in

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  2. beliefs

  the past five weeks have been perhaps the most painful in my life as a witness.. some months ago a young man (i'd say in his late thirties or early forties) began attending meetings at my kingdom hall.

  he had just moved to my area from another state.

  he had disassociated himself from his home congregation many years back, when he was 20 years old and going through many of the typical trials and temptations most young men experience.. two of the elders met with him initially, and they later shared the details with the body of elders.

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  Brother Jeramy, good for you!

  
  

  The way the WTBTS, and by extension, elders and all of the R&F JWs, has nothing to do with the parable of the Prodigal Son.

  
  

  My own disfellowshipping and subsequent reinstatement absolutely convinced me of that.

  
  

  God ain't got nothin to do with this religion.

  
  

  Let's review: It's a cult!
  
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  Anthony Morris III goes on an eight minute rant over child abuse

  by Richard_I in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is in the july 2015 monthly program on tv.jw.org cedars wrote about it too.. starting at around 42:30 in the video, morris talks about the child abuse situation for almost 10 minutes.

  link to video.

  i'm writing a transcript right now.

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  FMF, yes I read your post about the PSA. I think you're right about it being purely a preemptive legal move back in the day, a CYAPSA!

  That's exactly why I asked if anyone ever saw it. I don't know anyone that did. Nevertheless, and as I pointed out above, that PSA is NOT about the real problem of PEDOPHILES WITHIN THE CONGREGATIONS and the WT POLICIES THAT SUPPORT THEM.

  I remember back in the late '80s - early '90s when the Catholic church's problem with pedophiles was coming to light. All of us JWs were gloating, "See that proves they're a false religion. We don't have a problem like that!"

  Well guess what. JWs have exactly the same problem: pedophiles in their midst, often men with positions of authority and responsibility, and a culture of denial and covering up by the leaders of the religion.

  Can you say, "Hypocrites"? I know you can!

  Let's review: It's a cult!

  
  
  
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  Anthony Morris III goes on an eight minute rant over child abuse

  by Richard_I in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is in the july 2015 monthly program on tv.jw.org cedars wrote about it too.. starting at around 42:30 in the video, morris talks about the child abuse situation for almost 10 minutes.

  link to video.

  i'm writing a transcript right now.

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  Oubliette

  Did anyone here ever see that old PSA from 2002?

  I was serving as an elder at the time. I never saw it nor did I ever hear about it. That being said, it is really addressing pedophiles OUTSIDE of the congregation, not INSIDE.

  ToMo is deflecting the real issue.

  Also, that new PSA is good in that it encourages young ones how to react if someone does something inappropriate and makes them feel uncomfortable in any way, but it still fails to address the problem of pedophiles in the organization!

  Hey Tony, howze about making a PSA that tells all of the R&F JWs and the elders to report any and all acts of child abuse to the police? I dare you to do the right thing? Can you?

  I doubt it. Deep down, you're a hypocrite and a coward.
  

  Let's review: It's a cult!

  
  
  
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  Anthony Morris III goes on an eight minute rant over child abuse

  by Richard_I in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is in the july 2015 monthly program on tv.jw.org cedars wrote about it too.. starting at around 42:30 in the video, morris talks about the child abuse situation for almost 10 minutes.

  link to video.

  i'm writing a transcript right now.

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  What a bunch of bullshit propaganda. The so-called "New Morality" he talks about has nothing, repeat NOTHING, to do with pedophilia.

  It's just another bullshit diversionary tactic by ToMo.

  One word: SPIN!

  
  
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  Anthony Morris III goes on an eight minute rant over child abuse

  by Richard_I in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is in the july 2015 monthly program on tv.jw.org cedars wrote about it too.. starting at around 42:30 in the video, morris talks about the child abuse situation for almost 10 minutes.

  link to video.

  i'm writing a transcript right now.

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  ToMo, Victims "should never be discouraged from reporting the incident [abuse] to the appropriate authorities."

  Why aren't they ENCOURAGED to do so?

  Oh, I know! Let's review: It's a cult!
  
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  What Can Circuit Overseers Who Come To Know The Truth About The Truth Do To Cripple The Delusional Watchtower Corporation?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  well it is only natural to assume that a modest number of cos&wives, bethelites, and other people are becoming enlightened shall we say as to the real sinister nature of these sociopaths called the faithful and discreet governing body slave bull shit artist.. so what besides making secret documents public can these do to get some type of satisfactional revenge for being used by them in such a cruel way or like a smuck who they don't even give one shit about.

  what can these ladies and men do?

  how can they get some form of pay back for all the years they wasted slaving for these no good greedy bastards called the governing fucking body?

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  BW: I have no legal theory? I don't know law do you?

  I am not a lawyer, but I did work as a paralegal for several years and learned quite a few things.

  
  One important fact is that there is often a big disconnect between what is wrong and what is illegal. If something is not against any laws there is precious little a person can do about it using the legal system.

  
  
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  RC musings - my impressions

  by Doubting Bro in

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  so i went to the rc this past weekend and have a few observations:.

  1 - use of videos - most parts had some sort of video prop.

  they ranged from awkward (an example was on friday where they showed scenes of nature without a real purpose other than god made this) to very well done.

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  DB: The only weapon in their arsenal is guilt.

  Don't forget, they also use Fear and False Hope.
  

  DB: Again, they can't wrap their minds around why someone would leave or fade so they figure it must be Satan. Instead of taking an honest look that their teachings and the atmosphere of the congregations, they essentially blame the individual that they aren't grateful enough.

  You really nailed it with this comment. It's just not in their toolkit to even consider that THEY COULD BE THE PROBLEM!
  

  DB: Lett is insane. Seriously what is wrong with that dude and why do they continue to trot him out?

  No, you gotta love this guy. He actually was one of the biggest reasons I came to conclude this religion could not be "The One True Religion." I used to watch (actually I couldn't even look at him, he's such an idiot) him give talks at DCs and concluded that there is no way in hell that any kind of a god would ever choose Lett to represent anything!

  
  
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  Laughing Lion??? Lastest study article

  by dugout in

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  sh##@t not funny no more.

  comments please

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  Oubliette

  Maybe he's posting here on JWN!

  
  

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  Nah, he looks too bored. Probably he's on jw.org watching the latest Begging-For-Money-athon!

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  What Can Circuit Overseers Who Come To Know The Truth About The Truth Do To Cripple The Delusional Watchtower Corporation?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  well it is only natural to assume that a modest number of cos&wives, bethelites, and other people are becoming enlightened shall we say as to the real sinister nature of these sociopaths called the faithful and discreet governing body slave bull shit artist.. so what besides making secret documents public can these do to get some type of satisfactional revenge for being used by them in such a cruel way or like a smuck who they don't even give one shit about.

  what can these ladies and men do?

  how can they get some form of pay back for all the years they wasted slaving for these no good greedy bastards called the governing fucking body?

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  BW, what's your legal theory?

  You sound like you are wishing rather than strategizing based on any particular legal precedent.