Posts by Oubliette

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Child Abuse and Neglect Reporting Act

by Oubliette in

in light of anthony morris' latest propaganda piece, i thought it might be informative for members of our community to see what is typically required of mandated reporters.

here is what a credentialed teacher in the state of california must agree to as part of their licensing and credentialing.

(this is a requirement of both initial credentialing as well as renewals).

Are the Governing Body Members Mentally Ill?

by Oubliette in

data-dog: i believe that many of them would actually be considered mentally ill, if they were ever tested.. .

great question and intriguing hypothesis.

lets take an armchair psychologists view and see what we shall see.

Oubliette

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Are the Governing Body Members Mentally Ill?

Data-dog: I believe that many of them would actually be considered mentally ill, if they were ever tested.

Great question and intriguing hypothesis. Let’s take an armchair psychologist’s view and see what we shall see.

First of all, we know they believe things that are demonstrably untrue and/or in clear contradiction with reality. This is the definition of a delusion, which is typically a symptom of mental disorder.

Also, they think Satan and "this system of things" is out to get them, thereby exhibiting signs of paranoia.

And although they can appear superficially normal and even charming at times, they are nonetheless completely lacking in normal human compassion and empathy. They apparently have no consciences as evidenced by their ongoing, utter failure to admit to ever being wrong about anything. They never, ever show any guilt or remorse; they show total disregard for the untold pain and suffering they have caused to countless millions of people; are routinely and oft times brutally calculating and manipulative of their followers seeking their own selfish gain and desires, all the while simultaneously believing they are special and deserve more and better things than everyone around them. These traits are the classic characteristics of a life-long psychopath.

So there you have it: the Governing Body members are paranoid, delusional psychopaths and they are the leaders of a well-established religion with substantial numbers of followers Earthwide.

The implications of this are obviously very serious. Anyone that tries to imitate them will inevitably end up mimicking these same antisocial personality disorders. Sound like anyone you know? Yourself maybe?

Induced delusional disorder (or shared paranoid disorder), also known as folie à deux, is a fairly uncommon disturbance characterized by the presence of similar psychotic symptoms in two or more individuals.

According to Phillip W. Long, MD, the dominant person (in this case: the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses) in the relationship has a delusional disorder and convinces the nondominant person (the Rank & File Witnesses) to adopt his delusional beliefs. Needless to say, that's pretty messed up.

The bad news is that induced paranoia and delusions are very resistant to treatment. A combination of psychotherapy and medication is usually required. According to Dr. Joseph Goldberg, “Psychotherapy can help the person with shared psychotic disorder recognize the delusion and correct the underlying thinking that has become distorted. … However, psychotherapy without antipsychotic medications is rarely able to alter false, fixed beliefs.” And of course a person can't even begin to get help unless they admit there's a problem.

There is, however, some potential good news: the nondominant person can usually overcome the delusions and regain their mental health once separated from the psychotic dominant person or in this case the Jehovah's Witness religion and the influence of its leadership.

To paraphrase a familiar verse for most of us: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her insanity, and if you do not want to receive part of her mental illness."

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Creationist Museum Acquires 5,000-Year-Old T. Rex Skeleton

by freemindfade in

creationist museum acquires 5,000-year-old t. rex skeleton.

news january 15, 2003. vol 39 issue 01 science & technology science religion.

tulsa, okin a major coup for the growing field of creation science, the perfectly preserved remains of a 5,000-year-old tyrannosaurus rex were delivered monday to tulsa's creationist museum of natural history.. .

Oubliette

"biblical paleontology" now that's an oxymoron!

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INTERVIEW: with an Elder

by TerryWalstrom in

elder: "i'm not sure i know what you mean by 'diversity.'.

elder: "well, it's not quite like that.

elder: "um.

Oubliette

He lamely responded, "Well, that's different."

That is lame.

It's not like the elders can even determine repentance. They're more concerned with what the other elders think. It's all about appearances.

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Just received a visit from 2 Elders

by Driving Force in

the elders did not stay long and it wasn`t an official visit sanctioned by the boe/cobe because they were not from my (ex)congregation.

we talked a little about my situation and the fact that my wife does not talk to me and how non-scriptural her behavior is.. then they mentioned the rc and how it was the best convention for the last 20 years.

one thing they did mention was the fact that the borg was clearly preparing them for persecution.

Oubliette

Them: Then they mentioned the RC and how it was the best convention for the last 20 years.

Me: You think so? I've noticed everyone always says that. Personally, my favorite was the one two years ago. You remember that one, don't you?

Them: Uh, .... yeah. Of course!

Me: No you don't. What was the title of the convention?

Them: Uh, um ... well I can't recall just off the top of my head!

Me: Really? Seriously? You can't remember "God's Word is Truth!"?

Them: Of course, that's it!

Me: I'll bet in two years you won't remember the title of this year's convention either!

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Disfellowshipped at 18

by asensier in

you can probably guess how this story goes.. i began dating a non-witness boy.

he knew i was a baptised witness and understood the consequences i faced for dating him.

we agreed to keep our relationship secret, which was easy considering our 200 mile distance.

Oubliette

asensier: I feel free and ready to enjoy life to the full

Good for you!

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Child Abuse and Neglect Reporting Act

by Oubliette in

in light of anthony morris' latest propaganda piece, i thought it might be informative for members of our community to see what is typically required of mandated reporters.

here is what a credentialed teacher in the state of california must agree to as part of their licensing and credentialing.

(this is a requirement of both initial credentialing as well as renewals).

Oubliette

DD: I cannot imagine the WTBTS wanting you average J-dumb sending written reports to authorities. Jesus, can you even imagine the shit-storm that would cause?!

I'm sure the WTBTS does NOT want that, but not for the reason that most people seem to think. Mandated reporting would not increase liability, it would actually decrease it.

The reason the WT leaders don't want this getting out is that it would completely destroy the illusion that this religion is "The One True Religion," and reveal that it is in fact just another man-made organization, albeit a very delusional and often damaging one due to their plethora of false beliefs.

This situation completely reveals to those that see it just how harmful false beliefs are.

Let's review: It's a cult!

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GB Spirit directed writing - October 2015 Awake

by Listener in

the awake oct 2015 is now up on jw org.. one article talks about young adults returning to their parents home and tries to give them some advice.. one of the highlighted comments are these magical words.

<<remember, more important than what you do is becoming proficient at what you do.>>.

i don't see how it's more important to become more proficient in that window washing job than working towards a more interesting and better paying job.

Oubliette

DD: The GB are deluded, they and their writing staff are in an insular world and they confirm their own bias by writing this garbage.

Yeppers!

This is what happens when people that got nothing are operating under the false belief that they must say something.

They become very proficient at spewing out meaningless drivel. Fortunately, a lot of it is pretty harmless. That being said, it's really astounding just how many truly harmful things come out of their deluded, self-important minds and make their way into jw.tv, convention parts, WT and/or Awake! articles, and Sophia and Caleb cartoons.

Let's review: It's a cult!

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Anthony Morris III: "...we cannot control everything that an individual might say..."

by cappytan in

i noticed that anthony morris iii just said on the broadcast: "while we cannot control everything that an individual might say, it is clear that over the decades protecting children from abuse is a top priority for this organization.".

that, in my opinion, is a direct response to the richard ashe "spiritual protection not physical protection" deposition.. here's a video putting the two statements side by side.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgevpuyn7gy.

Oubliette

Data-dog, as real and practical as your solution sounds, it ignores the basic reason they won't do it: They need to maintain the fantasy that they are, and always have been, "the one True Religion."

We know they aren't, but they can't admit that, not even to themselves.

Let's review: It's a cult!

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REQUEST: Video Links for this year's RC Dramas

by Oubliette in

does anyone have the links for this year's rc videos?

i'm especially interested in the video drama about the jw woman that married an upbaptized man.

i have a couple of friends in similar situations--wife in, they're not--and the wives still attend.

Oubliette

OEJ, you have to lie and say, "Yes."

Jehovah will have to kill you for it, but at least you'll see their latest propaganda piece before you die. You better watch it quickly because, as you know, Armageddon's coming soon!