Posts by Oubliette

fukitol: They're just friggen brainwashed, man, in the same way that any religious leader of any church is. Stupid to tarnish them with the same 'mentally diseased' crap as they do to us. Don't descend to their level.

You're missing several important points. First, I'm not "descending to their level" at all. Unlike them, I support my assertions with facts and evidence. This is profoundly different.

Also, you contradict yourself when you say, "They're just friggen brainwashed" because that actually proves my point. The GB members exhibit (among other things) belief induced delusions which they in turn induce in others.

Finally, I am convinced that the WT leaderships use of the "mentally diseased" label is in fact a psychological projection of their own deep-seated fears concerning their own sanity. But again, note that when they use the term disparagingly of "apostates" they fail to provide anything remotely resembling evidence or reasons for their abusive ad hominem attacks on those that disagree with them.

That being said, there is clearly evidence that the WT leaders suffer from a suite of personality disorders. I just focused on a few of the big ones.

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New grandson!

by mimimimi in

our youngest son and his wife (matt and star) welcomed a baby boy yesterday at 7:04 p.m. ivan tomas, 7 lbs.

11 oz., 20 1/4" long.

he is their second child.

Oubliette

Congratulations!

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What started me on the path to waking up about the lies the WT teaches?

by oppostate in

it was a simple question: isn't jesus my "mediator" if i put faith in him like the scriptures say?

the research to that answer, from the w79 4/1 p. 31, was mind blowing.

how dare they deny me a belief firmly stated in the scriptures?

Oubliette

John Aquila: 607 and it was Londo's fault!

Really? How was it Londo's fault? There's a story there and I wanna hear it!

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What started me on the path to waking up about the lies the WT teaches?

by oppostate in

it was a simple question: isn't jesus my "mediator" if i put faith in him like the scriptures say?

the research to that answer, from the w79 4/1 p. 31, was mind blowing.

how dare they deny me a belief firmly stated in the scriptures?

Oubliette

I can't remember which got me thinking first: the UN/NGO Scandal or the fact the Stephen Lett is obviously such an idiot that there's no way in hell that God would ever pick him to represent him. They both hit about the same time, 2002/3.

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Child Abuse and Neglect Reporting Act

by Oubliette in

in light of anthony morris' latest propaganda piece, i thought it might be informative for members of our community to see what is typically required of mandated reporters.

here is what a credentialed teacher in the state of california must agree to as part of their licensing and credentialing.

(this is a requirement of both initial credentialing as well as renewals).

Oubliette

RichardHaley, interesting point, I did not know that.

So basically we're saying that the secular society in California is better at protecting children that "Jehovah's Organization."

School District janitors are mandated reporters, but JW elder/janitors are not!

Just one more indictment of this cult masquerading as "The One True Religion."

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GB Spirit directed writing - October 2015 Awake

by Listener in

the awake oct 2015 is now up on jw org.. one article talks about young adults returning to their parents home and tries to give them some advice.. one of the highlighted comments are these magical words.

<<remember, more important than what you do is becoming proficient at what you do.>>.

i don't see how it's more important to become more proficient in that window washing job than working towards a more interesting and better paying job.

Oubliette

It's telling that their goal or standard is mere proficiency.

While proficiency is not a bad thing, it's certainly also not setting the bar very high. And I'm not even addressing the areas of endeavor about which they try to direct one's "proficiency!

A particular pervasive aspect of JW culture is the utter lack of encouragement to become EXCELLENT at anything. And for God's sake, don't try and pursue anything about which you care passionately!

Let's review: It's a cult!

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REQUEST: Video Links for this year's RC Dramas

by Oubliette in

does anyone have the links for this year's rc videos?

i'm especially interested in the video drama about the jw woman that married an upbaptized man.

i have a couple of friends in similar situations--wife in, they're not--and the wives still attend.

Oubliette

Thanks WiFi!

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Are the Governing Body Members Mentally Ill?

by Oubliette in

data-dog: i believe that many of them would actually be considered mentally ill, if they were ever tested.. .

great question and intriguing hypothesis.

lets take an armchair psychologists view and see what we shall see.

Oubliette

DD: This is a question that only we can answer about ourselves: "Before I knew TTATT, was I mentally ill?"

Actually, mentally ill people, particularly those with delusions, are generally incapable of recognizing their own delusional thinking and corresponding behavior.

If you mean, now that we are out and have some distance and perspective, then I suppose: Yes, a reflective, self-aware person might be able to look back on their beliefs and behaviors as an active JW and objectively say about themselves, "Whoa, was I fucked up or what? That was cwaaaaa-zeee!"

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Are the Governing Body Members Mentally Ill?

by Oubliette in

data-dog: i believe that many of them would actually be considered mentally ill, if they were ever tested.. .

great question and intriguing hypothesis.

lets take an armchair psychologists view and see what we shall see.

Oubliette

Vidiot: Joke, right?

Yes, absolutely!

They didn't call him "Crazy Freddie" for nothin!

I didn't think my sarcasm was subtle enough for you to even wonder.