according to a jw contact, one of the speakers at the regional conventiontm stated that "for evolution to be true, two of the same kind would have had to evolve at the same time; one would have to be male and the other would have to be female, and then they would have to find each other".

apparently the crowd had a good laugh over how evolutionists overlook such a simple "fact".. i mentioned that bacteria and viruses use asexual reproduction, and that many sea creatures / fish, etc.

are hermaphrodite and do not require a sexual partner to produce offspring.. oddly enough, the conversation stopped there.

Oubliette

For anyone that wants to know more about what Cofty was talking about:

Scientists discover why fungi have 36,000 sexes

IF HUMANS were mushrooms, finding a date would be much easier. Whereas we muddle by with just two sexes, the fungi have 36,000, all of which can mate with each other, in a mysterious process involving underground fronds.

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@ RC: "For evolution to be true..."

by Scully in

according to a jw contact, one of the speakers at the regional conventiontm stated that "for evolution to be true, two of the same kind would have had to evolve at the same time; one would have to be male and the other would have to be female, and then they would have to find each other".

apparently the crowd had a good laugh over how evolutionists overlook such a simple "fact".. i mentioned that bacteria and viruses use asexual reproduction, and that many sea creatures / fish, etc.

are hermaphrodite and do not require a sexual partner to produce offspring.. oddly enough, the conversation stopped there.

Oubliette

Billy: Of course, a JW argument like this against evolution is also an argument against the Noachian flood.

Exactly.

JWs are really reveal their profound lack of intellectual ability whenever they make statements like this. Indeed, if the Noachian flood story is true, then JWs would be required to believe in a much more aggressive form of biological evolution than the one that is generally proposed and accepted in the scientific community. They just don't get it.

They are essentially saying that they believe the present biological diversity on earth (after the initial creation and subsequent destruction at the flood) happened in only a few thousand years whereas evolutionary biologists and related scientist make the claim that it happened over hundreds of millions of years.

Most of JWs don't realize that evolution per se is not even the issue, it's the origin of life question. So silly. If you hope to have an intelligent conversation with most JWs you have to first educate them about how wrong they are about how they think before you can show them how wrong they are about what they "know."

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@ RC: "For evolution to be true..."

by Scully in

according to a jw contact, one of the speakers at the regional conventiontm stated that "for evolution to be true, two of the same kind would have had to evolve at the same time; one would have to be male and the other would have to be female, and then they would have to find each other".

apparently the crowd had a good laugh over how evolutionists overlook such a simple "fact".. i mentioned that bacteria and viruses use asexual reproduction, and that many sea creatures / fish, etc.

are hermaphrodite and do not require a sexual partner to produce offspring.. oddly enough, the conversation stopped there.

Oubliette

DarioKehl: I guess the dirt man and rib woman in a magic garden who fucked up everything for the rest of us by taking dietary advice from a talking snake makes a helluva lot more sense. My bad! Sorry for murmuring.

Too funny!

Love the sarcasm.

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@ RC: "For evolution to be true..."

by Scully in

according to a jw contact, one of the speakers at the regional conventiontm stated that "for evolution to be true, two of the same kind would have had to evolve at the same time; one would have to be male and the other would have to be female, and then they would have to find each other".

apparently the crowd had a good laugh over how evolutionists overlook such a simple "fact".. i mentioned that bacteria and viruses use asexual reproduction, and that many sea creatures / fish, etc.

are hermaphrodite and do not require a sexual partner to produce offspring.. oddly enough, the conversation stopped there.

Oubliette

"For evolution to be true, two of the same kind would have had to evolve at the same time; one would have to be male and the other would have to be female, and then they would have to find each other"

Actually that is more or less true regarding sexual reproduction. But there is nothing surprising or challenging about the above statement if you understand how evolution works and the time frames involved. Without intending to, the speaker referenced in the OP unwittingly expressed his agreement with the theory of biological evolution.

We are evolving all of the time.

Watch this short PBS video and you'll understand if you don't already. And if you already get it, you might find the way this is presented will help you reason with others that don't yet get it:

There Was No First Human

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I AM LOOKING FOR LETTERS TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS AND I WANT TO VIEW IT HERE AND I DON'T NEED ANY LINK PLEASE

by COLLINS in

jw
friends

i said that i want to view the september 7,2011 and the may 6,2012 to all bodies of elders and fadingtruth sent a link but i could not find them.. so i just want someone from this forum to post these letters here without any link please..

Oubliette

COLLINS: YOU CAN JUST GIVE ME ONE LINK LIKE SENDSPACE.COM INSTEAD OF THE LARGEST 1905-2015 BODIES OF ELDERS FILE BECAUSE IT IS VERY HARD TO FIND THEM AND I JUST NEED ONLY THESE TWO LETTERS.

IS THAT WHAT WE CAN DO?

FUNNY. DO YOU THINK WE ALL ARE JUST SITTING AROUND WAITING FOR YOU TO GIVE ORDERS AND MAKE DEMANDS. WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE, STEPHEN LETT? ANTHONY MORRIS?

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Huge story unfolding at Warwick

by Crazyguy in

its been mentioned before that warwick is a toxic dump and now the jw's are suing a former owner for compensation.

well this is huge on so many levels.

one they new it was contaminated back a few years ago so why move your headquarters there?

Oubliette

DarioKehl: Didn't they also get in trouble for illegal dumping in walkill? Huh... God will ruin those ruining the earth.

Watchtower Caught Dumping Chemicals

The site is currently enrolled in the state Brownfield Cleanup Program. (http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111227/NEWS/112270319)

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I AM LOOKING FOR LETTERS TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS AND I WANT TO VIEW IT HERE AND I DON'T NEED ANY LINK PLEASE

by COLLINS in

jw
friends

i said that i want to view the september 7,2011 and the may 6,2012 to all bodies of elders and fadingtruth sent a link but i could not find them.. so i just want someone from this forum to post these letters here without any link please..

Oubliette

Wow, what a spoiled brat!

Go to your room. You need a time-out!

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Are the Governing Body Members Mentally Ill?

by Oubliette in

data-dog: i believe that many of them would actually be considered mentally ill, if they were ever tested.. .

great question and intriguing hypothesis.

lets take an armchair psychologists view and see what we shall see.

Oubliette

DarioKehl, Finkelstein, GreatTeacher, Millie, Orphan Crow and Phizzy, thanks for all of your comments and contributions to this thread.

I'm busy getting ready for a cross-country trip and don't have time just now to give a proper response to all your your posts, but I wanted to let you know I've read them and, whether I agree or not, I appreciate them all. I should have a little time in the next day or two for a better response to each of you.

In the meantime, keep those cards and letters coming!

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