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  An Obvious Contradiction Mr Stewart is Missing

  by cofty in

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  all jws on the stand have stuck to the same line that they have no problem with cooperating with mandatory reporting when state law requires it.. if the law does not require it then bible principles absolutely prevent them from taking away rights of the victim to report abuse to the police or not.. we have already heard from a jw rep a couple of days ago who proudly asserted that when the law conflicts with bible principle they will always obey the bible and quoted acts 5:29 "we must obey god rather than men".. please join the dots!.

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  All JWs on the stand have stuck to the same line that they have no problem with cooperating with mandatory reporting when state law requires it.

  And yet, as Angus Stewart pointed out in his opening address:

  #69 - Evidence will be put before the Royal Commission that of the 1,006 alleged perpetrators of child sexual abuse identified by the Jehovah’s Witness Church since 1950, not one was reported by the Church to secular authorities. This suggests that it is the practice of the Jehovah’s Witness Church to retain information regarding child sexual abuse offences but not to report allegations of child sexual abuse to the police or other relevant authorities. - [Emphasis and highlighting added]

  Not one, not a single one in 65 years. That is a spectacularly stunning failure.
  
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  Did you hear that!? His Honour is insisting that Jackson attend the Royal Commission

  by umbertoecho in

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  2. scandals

  i actually started clapping at that point, as his honour explained to the wt type creep sycophantic slithery lawyer that........" i understand that we all have issues to face in life and .....that is a part of life...........however it has become obvious that this man ....is in such a position to assist with this investigation.....".

  it boils down to the fact that stewart outright accused the latest witness of misleading the royal commission and this lead to some document searches which led his honour to conclude that they had been protecting mr jackson.

  this was a warm and fluffy moment folks.................brilliant stuff!!!!!

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  The GB members are all cowards.

  Jesus showed up for his trial.

  That loser Loesch refused to come when subpoenaed in California.

  Let's review: It's a cult!
  
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  Justice McClellan was annoyed by not being made aware of the authority of Jackson as a GB top dog. Material needed if any one here could ..

  by umbertoecho in

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  2. scandals

  hello again.. splash had a pile of scriptural evidence which he uploaded and it was good material.

  it established the gb as the fds and used watchtower study articles.........i don't know if he was the only one but the material flew in the face of what those men have been saying.

  it proves, using their own material how they indeed think they are the ones with the direct control over millions of lives, because as you know.........they are the direct hot line to god.

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  They seem very worried about having their financials looked at...

  Of course they do.

  Follow the money, honey!

  
  
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  Justice McClellan was annoyed by not being made aware of the authority of Jackson as a GB top dog. Material needed if any one here could ..

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hello again.. splash had a pile of scriptural evidence which he uploaded and it was good material.

  it established the gb as the fds and used watchtower study articles.........i don't know if he was the only one but the material flew in the face of what those men have been saying.

  it proves, using their own material how they indeed think they are the ones with the direct control over millions of lives, because as you know.........they are the direct hot line to god.

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  Thank you

  Watchtower-Free

  That was just the document I was thinking of.

  Has anyone here forwarded it to Mssrs. Stewart and McLennan?

  
  
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  What JW.ORG might look like if a Bethelite went rogue - (if only this would really happen.)

  by cappytan in

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  Awesome!

  I'd read those articles.
  
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  Judicial comitee unsciptual no foundation in christian cong

  by poopie in

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  2. friends

  if so prove it

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  They are!

  Judicial Hearing Procedures of Jehovah's Witnesses are Bible Based

  Some Points to Ponder:

  The modern judicial hearing procedures of Jehovah's Witnesses are based on a Bible account. It's a fairly familiar account. You'll recognize it immediately:

  
  

  An individual is required to appear before numerous judges against his will. He is not allowed any representation or even anyone to accompany him simply for moral support. He is not told the charges prior to the hearing, nor is he informed what the evidence is against him or who the witnesses will be. He is outnumbered by both his accusers and the judges. No outside, independent observers are allowed to insure that his civil rights are not violated nor are there any formal, public records kept of the judicial proceedings. He stands alone.

  
  

  Do you recognize this account? Does it sound familiar? As a model for modern day Judicial Hearings of Jehovah's Witnesses, who does the individual represent? Who do the judges represent? Do you think the results of that Biblical judicial proceeding were just or not? Why or why not?

  Which side would you have wanted to be on in the Biblical account? Which side, if any, do you find yourself on today?

  [Originally posted by 00DAD]
  
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  Jehovah Witness Wikapedia written by the same people who write the publications?

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  2. bible

  i took a look at the jehovah's witnesses wikipedia page for the first time and i couldn't help but notice it was worded very closely to how jw's publications are.

  the good stuff seems to be very positive while the negative items seem to be very downplayed.

  the talk of persecution is enough to get your average jw wet.

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  Years ago I used to edit JW related articles on WP with a pro-JW. It was a result of doing that that I discovered that many of my beliefs and behaviors as a JW were indefensible.
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  Mandatory reporting and misprision

  by Xanthippe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  day 7 of the australian royal commission has chair justice peter mcclellan raising the point that i have been wondering about all along, which is, how can these elders not report child abuse to the authorities especially when a full confession has taken place?.

  justice mcclellan asked toole, the wts's lawyer, if he is aware that there is a difference between an organisation being required to have mandatory reporting of child abuse to the authorities and misprision which is the concealment of a felony, itself a criminal offence?

  toole says he is aware of it now but he wasn't before!

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  Mandatory reporting and misprision

  by Xanthippe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  day 7 of the australian royal commission has chair justice peter mcclellan raising the point that i have been wondering about all along, which is, how can these elders not report child abuse to the authorities especially when a full confession has taken place?.

  justice mcclellan asked toole, the wts's lawyer, if he is aware that there is a difference between an organisation being required to have mandatory reporting of child abuse to the authorities and misprision which is the concealment of a felony, itself a criminal offence?

  toole says he is aware of it now but he wasn't before!

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  Here's the irony that the RC has duly noted:

  All JWs are in effect mandated to report any wrongdoing to the elders,

  But the elders don't report even criminal activity to the police even when it is mandated.

  Note point #69 from the Opening Address:
  

  #69. Evidence will be put before the Royal Commission that of the 1,006 alleged perpetrators of child sexual abuse identified by the Jehovah’s Witness Church since 1950, not one was reported by the Church to secular authorities. This suggests that it is the practice of the Jehovah’s Witness Church to retain information regarding child sexual abuse offences but not to report allegations of child sexual abuse to the police or other relevant authorities.- [Emphasis and highlighting added]
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  Jehovah Witness Wikapedia written by the same people who write the publications?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i took a look at the jehovah's witnesses wikipedia page for the first time and i couldn't help but notice it was worded very closely to how jw's publications are.

  the good stuff seems to be very positive while the negative items seem to be very downplayed.

  the talk of persecution is enough to get your average jw wet.

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  Anyone can edit a Wikipedia article. You can too.