due to circumstances right now i cannot leave permanently the watchtower, however i need honest advice of what to say when elders question me how come im not meeting the group out for door to door & going out in " field service"... what would be proper responses not to draw suspicions since i'm aware of ttatt.. .any serious advice please...
Playing the depression card generally works.
"I'm sorry brothers, I just so depressed right now. I simply am not emotionally ready to go to meetings, go out in FS, etc."
If they press and ask why, tell them it's personal.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
If they suggest a "shepherding call" politely, but firmly, decline. "Thanks for your concern, but I'm just not up for it."
Eventually they'll get busy on something else and give up.
there were so many things wrong with this weeks watchtower, its hard to pick one, but one that really bothered me was this watchtower business and their delivery.
i have never seen them quite have to explain something away like this in a study article like this before.
shows me they are battling people feeling confused.
It's totally the rapture.
The latest WT teaching is essentially what Fundamentalist Christians mean when they use the term: Rapture, (minor details aside). Although I doubt JWs will start using the term anytime soon.
i'm sick of.... ...having an elder i barely know invite himself over to my house, and bring another asshole elder with him, you know, to "see how i'm doing" f-ck them.
...having same elder with all insincerity approach me at the beeting and before inviting himself over, ask, "how are you doing?
" then when i say everything is great, go ahead and invite them selves over anyway.
Good, good!
Hang in there. Soon it will all be passed.
i'm sick of.... ...having an elder i barely know invite himself over to my house, and bring another asshole elder with him, you know, to "see how i'm doing" f-ck them.
...having same elder with all insincerity approach me at the beeting and before inviting himself over, ask, "how are you doing?
" then when i say everything is great, go ahead and invite them selves over anyway.
Wow, you must be having a particular bad day. I'm sorry to hear that.
What's the status of your fade? Why can't you just tell the elders to leave you alone?
guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.
david spane does his best to explain it again.
the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.
I have heard anecdotal evidence that Sanderson started partaking when he was young. I know a guy that knows a guy that knows. ... my source says mark was about 19 when he started partaking
Well that settles it! ... lol
as a true believer in the watchtower, i never knew how truly boring i was until being out for a couple of years and then sitting down with a group of jws and having a conversation..
thats what happened this morning.
i decided to go have breakfast at mcdonalds and a group of jws who were out in service and know me also stopped for breakfast and sat down with me and we talked for about an hour.
I'm glad you're not boring anymore.
Welcome to the rest, and THE BEST, of your life!
i was supposed to attend the meeting today, one of my once a month duties for the sake of my family and my fade.
i read the wt and i just can't stomach going.... what this wt does is again and again reiterate that only jws will survive the coming destruction and that they should be happy about this and raise ourselves erect...eg:.
we cannot expect that many people will suddenly convert to true christianity.
Millie: Funny that one of the criteria for living through the coming upheaval is how you treated the anointed.
Never mind that there are almost no anointed in any congregations anywhere.
I guess you can treat them well by proxy through your financial support of the FDS, which coincidentally are the seven leaders of this scam!
Let's review: It's a cult!
science can explain how of things, but it cannot explain why of certain things (for example, why did life arise from non-life and evolved from simpler creatures to more complex life forms only to die and disappear?
) so are the conflicted religions whose chief concern is in safeguarding each ones separate identity..
next option is to look for pearls among the stonesusing power of our own reason.
Rebel8, thanks for giving us the context of Sagan's quote.
I knew there must be more to it. The OP contains many examples of WT style misquoting: selectively taking a quote out of context to make it appear to say the exact opposite of what the author intended.
Clearly a deliberate deception.
www.jamaica-gleaner.com/article/news/20150913/shunning-cult-practice-jehovahs-witnesses
science can explain how of things, but it cannot explain why of certain things (for example, why did life arise from non-life and evolved from simpler creatures to more complex life forms only to die and disappear?
) so are the conflicted religions whose chief concern is in safeguarding each ones separate identity..
next option is to look for pearls among the stonesusing power of our own reason.
Iconoclastic: Science can explain HOW of things, but it cannot explain WHY of certain things
I completely agree with your thread title. It caught my attention. But you lost my by the fourth word of your long, convoluted and rambling essay, which did not--as far as I could tell (and, yes, I read the whole messy thing)--support your thesis.
You clearly do not understand what science is, how it works or what it does and does not attempt to know, understand and explain.
You might find this thread helpful in understanding science:
